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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=905330317-03112008><FONT face=Arial><FONT
color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=955580417-03112008>I believe the/a
CIR that </SPAN>Mr. Rosenberg <SPAN class=955580417-03112008>is referring
to is an </SPAN><SPAN class=955580417-03112008>NC v 2.2 CIR submitted
9/27/06 and answered on 10/23/06 that hinges on
the gas being preheat.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=955580417-03112008>I have not read the
CIR Mr. Dec mentioned although that seems fascinating
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Rosenberg,
Michael I<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2008 10:43 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
James Hansen; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bldg-sim]
Fossil/Electric hybrid system under 90.1 App G<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=767363916-03112008><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Yes, you are correct. Appendix G requires that if you have any gas heat
in your Proposed building, the baseline system would use gas heat. However, if
this is for a LEED submittal, you may want to do a little research on relevant
CIR's since USGBC has interpreted this a little differently than was intended
by Appendix G. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>James
Hansen<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 03, 2008 8:32 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bldg-sim] Fossil/Electric
hybrid system under 90.1 App G<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I can’t seem to find reference to this in the 90.1 User
Manual. <o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>In Appendix G, Table G3.1.1A, there is a reference to a
Fossil/Electric hybrid for determining Baseline system type. Is this a
system that, for example, might have a gas-fired RTU with electric VAV boxes?
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>In other words, if there is ANY gas heat in your Proposed
building, your Baseline building would have to automatically default to a fuel
furnace or gas-fired hot water heating system, correct?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></P>
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