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color=#0000ff size=2>JRR,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421491010-12092008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Yes OpenSuse is ok. Personally I like changing my
Linux flavour on a regular basis. Currently using Mandriva which seems
ok. I think if you want to properly use it for commercial application then
you really should like you say go for the Novell supported version or the
other flavour which is probably just as well supported and certainly is
that favoured by Pointwise and number of other programs out
there, which is RedHat Linux. Not sure but isn't Fedora
the open version of this?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=421491010-12092008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I think CAE-linux with it all being precompiled does give
the opportunity for those not using linux the opportunity to try it and see if
they like it. Never know we might convert a few people in the
process.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Regards</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>Paul</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>JRR<BR><B>Sent:</B> 12 September 2008 04:56<BR><B>To:</B> Paul
Carey<BR><B>Cc:</B> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Bldg-sim] CFD Software for Built Environment<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>JRR wrote;<BR><BR>For LINUX on a general purpose computer I
would go for Open SuSE 11.0 which is on the DVD of the current issue of
Linux Format -- the SuSE green color is all over the cover. I paid a
whopping $16 for it<BR>in the US. It's cheaper in England its home turf
(the mag) Dealer's cost for single copy of Windows XP<BR>Pro is over
$130. SuSE is also offered through NOVELL in the US so there is
actual real professional<BR>support on the phone, or
online.......<BR><BR>jrr<BR><BR>Paul Carey wrote:
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class=000151608-10092008>Antixs</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=000151608-10092008>I think this depends largely on your budget and
proficiency.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=000151608-10092008>If you want to go full on with CFD, then I'd suggest
Fluent (<A href="http://www.fluent.com/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.fluent.com/</A>) everyday. It is
very widely used and well trusted tool. ICEM is a good meshing
tool, but we like Pointwise and Gridgen for it's meshing
simplicity.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=000151608-10092008>Other than that, I know CCM+ from CD-Adapco (<A
href="http://www.cd-adapco.com/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cd-adapco.com/</A>) is very good too.
Makes the job quite easy. These tools are very expensive
though.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=000151608-10092008>If you want the same sort of capability and are
willing to use mainly text input then I'd suggest OpenFoam (<A
href="http://www.openfoam.org"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.openfoam.org</A>) - a very powerful
open source CFD tool. You could use something like pointwise to mesh it,
output a fluent case file and then openfoam has it's own fluent case file
converter program which you could use to then convert it and process
it. You'd probably need a decent post processor too, but clearly then
you are only paying for those programs as openfoam itself is free.
If you can do it all by text then you wouldn't need to pay anything at
all. It will require you to use Linux though. I saw a pre-compiled
bootable live CD distro of this recently which was quite impressive so it
allows you to check it out just by inserting CD into computer and booting to
it. The link for that is: <A href="http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=000151608-10092008>Of the cheaper and possibly more usable programs for
quick built environment analysis. Cham Pheonics (<A
href="http://www.cham.co.uk/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.cham.co.uk/</A>) is good value for
money. It's Flair add on is pretty simple to use. I'd still
personally get a good CAD program to make sure your geometry is spot on before
importing it, but then it would do the job well. A lot of companies use
it becasue of it's relative simplicity and good price.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=000151608-10092008>Another which is aimed at non-CFD experts is
DesignBuilder CFD (<A href="http://www.designbuilder.co.uk/"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.designbuilder.co.uk/</A>). It is in
beta test stage and looks promising. It'll be great for simple
stuff. Wouln't recommend anything that uses just cartesian grids for
complex jobs, but for the large majority of jobs it will suit, especially if
it's internal room flows, etc. Should be quite competitive on the price
too.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=000151608-10092008>Hope that helps.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=000151608-10092008>Regards</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>antixs antixs<BR><B>Sent:</B> 10 September 2008
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[Bldg-sim] CFD Software for Built Environment<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Hi all,</DIV>
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<DIV>Just wonder what CFD softwares are popularly used for analyzing built
environemnt in architect/MEP consulting firms? Also which one is relatively
eaiser to use?</DIV>
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<DIV>Many thanks.</DIV></DIV>
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