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JRR wrote;<br>
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For LINUX on a general purpose computer I would go for Open SuSE 11.0
which is on the DVD of the current issue of Linux Format -- the SuSE
green color is all over the cover. I paid a whopping $16 for it<br>
in the US. It's cheaper in England its home turf (the mag) Dealer's
cost for single copy of Windows XP<br>
Pro is over $130. SuSE is also offered through NOVELL in the US so
there is actual real professional<br>
support on the phone, or online.......<br>
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jrr<br>
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Paul Carey wrote:
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size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Antixs</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">I think this depends
largely on your budget and proficiency.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">If you want to go full on
with CFD, then I'd suggest Fluent (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.fluent.com/">http://www.fluent.com/</a>) everyday.
It is very widely used and well trusted tool. ICEM is a good meshing
tool, but we like Pointwise and Gridgen for it's meshing simplicity.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Other than that, I know CCM+
from CD-Adapco (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.cd-adapco.com/">http://www.cd-adapco.com/</a>) is
very good too. Makes the job quite easy. These tools are very
expensive though.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">If you want the same sort of
capability and are willing to use mainly text input then I'd suggest
OpenFoam (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.openfoam.org">http://www.openfoam.org</a>) -
a very powerful open source CFD tool. You could use something like
pointwise to mesh it, output a fluent case file and then openfoam has
it's own fluent case file converter program which you could use to then
convert it and process it. You'd probably need a decent post processor
too, but clearly then you are only paying for those programs as
openfoam itself is free. If you can do it all by text then you
wouldn't need to pay anything at all. It will require you to use Linux
though. I saw a pre-compiled bootable live CD distro of this recently
which was quite impressive so it allows you to check it out just by
inserting CD into computer and booting to it. The link for that is: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/">http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/</a></span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Of the cheaper and possibly
more usable programs for quick built environment analysis. Cham
Pheonics (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cham.co.uk/">http://www.cham.co.uk/</a>)
is good value for money. It's Flair add on is pretty simple to use.
I'd still personally get a good CAD program to make sure your geometry
is spot on before importing it, but then it would do the job well. A
lot of companies use it becasue of it's relative simplicity and good
price.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Another which is aimed at
non-CFD experts is DesignBuilder CFD (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.designbuilder.co.uk/">http://www.designbuilder.co.uk/</a>).
It is in beta test stage and looks promising. It'll be great for
simple stuff. Wouln't recommend anything that uses just cartesian
grids for complex jobs, but for the large majority of jobs it will
suit, especially if it's internal room flows, etc. Should be quite
competitive on the price too.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Hope that helps.</span></font></div>
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size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Regards</span></font></div>
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size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Paul</span></font></div>
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<div>Hi all,</div>
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<div>Just wonder what CFD softwares are popularly used for analyzing
built environemnt in architect/MEP consulting firms? Also which one is
relatively eaiser to use?</div>
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<div>Many thanks.</div>
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