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JRR wrote;<br>
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For LINUX on a general purpose computer&nbsp; I would go for&nbsp; Open SuSE 11.0
which is on the DVD of the current issue of Linux&nbsp; Format -- the SuSE
green color is all over the cover. I paid a whopping $16 for it<br>
in the US.&nbsp; It's cheaper in England its home turf (the mag)&nbsp; Dealer's
cost for&nbsp; single copy of Windows XP<br>
Pro is over $130.&nbsp;&nbsp; SuSE is also offered through NOVELL in the US so
there is actual real professional<br>
support on the phone,&nbsp; or online.......<br>
<br>
jrr<br>
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Paul Carey wrote:
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  <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Antixs</span></font></div>
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  <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">I think this depends
largely&nbsp;on your budget and proficiency.</span></font></div>
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  <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">If you want to go full on
with CFD, then I'd suggest Fluent (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://www.fluent.com/">http://www.fluent.com/</a>) everyday.&nbsp;
It is very&nbsp;widely used and well trusted tool.&nbsp; ICEM is a good meshing
tool, but we like Pointwise and Gridgen for it's meshing simplicity.</span></font></div>
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  <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Other than that, I know CCM+
from CD-Adapco (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://www.cd-adapco.com/">http://www.cd-adapco.com/</a>) is
very good too.&nbsp; Makes the job quite easy.&nbsp; These tools are very
expensive though.</span></font></div>
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  <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">If you want the same sort of
capability and are willing to use mainly text input then I'd suggest
OpenFoam (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.openfoam.org">http://www.openfoam.org</a>)&nbsp;-
a very powerful open source CFD tool.&nbsp; You could use something like
pointwise to mesh it, output a fluent case file and then openfoam has
it's own fluent case file converter program which you could use to then
convert it and&nbsp;process it.&nbsp; You'd probably need a decent post processor
too, but clearly then you are only paying for those programs as
openfoam itself is free.&nbsp; &nbsp; If you can do it all by text then you
wouldn't need to pay anything at all.&nbsp; It will require you to use Linux
though.&nbsp; I saw a pre-compiled bootable live CD distro of this recently
which was quite impressive so it allows you to check it out just by
inserting CD into computer and booting to it.&nbsp; The link for that is:&nbsp; <a
 moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/">http://www.caelinux.com/CMS/</a></span></font></div>
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  <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Of the cheaper and possibly
more usable programs for quick built environment analysis.&nbsp; Cham
Pheonics (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cham.co.uk/">http://www.cham.co.uk/</a>)
&nbsp;is good value for money.&nbsp; It's Flair add on is pretty simple to use.&nbsp;
I'd still personally get a good CAD program to make sure your geometry
is spot on before importing it, but then it would do the job well.&nbsp; A
lot of companies use it becasue of it's relative simplicity and good
price.</span></font></div>
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  <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Another which is&nbsp;aimed at
non-CFD experts is DesignBuilder CFD (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
 href="http://www.designbuilder.co.uk/">http://www.designbuilder.co.uk/</a>).&nbsp;
It is in beta test stage and looks promising.&nbsp; It'll be great for
simple stuff.&nbsp; Wouln't recommend anything that uses just cartesian
grids for complex jobs, but for the large majority of jobs it will
suit, especially if it's internal room flows, etc.&nbsp; Should be quite
competitive on the price too.</span></font></div>
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 size="2"><span class="000151608-10092008">Hope that helps.</span></font></div>
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>antixs
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  <b>Sent:</b> 10 September 2008 05:13<br>
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  <b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] CFD Software for Built Environment<br>
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  <div>Hi all,</div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div>Just wonder what CFD softwares are popularly used for analyzing
built environemnt in architect/MEP consulting firms? Also which one is
relatively eaiser to use?</div>
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  <div>Many thanks.</div>
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