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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=766593219-05092008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I did a museum that was into the side of foothills. Just
make sure your surfaces touching the ground (floor and wall) are shown as
Underground (dark green on the 3-D color matrix.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT color=#0000ff>John R. Aulbach, PE, CEM</FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Talbert,
Joshua<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 05, 2008 11:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Paul
Carey<BR><B>Cc:</B> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Bldg-sim] Floors Built into Grade<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Howdy
Folks:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Paul, thank you very
much for the follow up. Forgive me all, I forgot to mention the software I
am using, eQuest. It appears I may have solved my own question so I
thought I’d post that back to the forum. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In eQuest I created a
bunch of different ‘shells’ for the areas above and below the sloping
grade. Then using the manual coordinate placement of shells was able to
stack them following along the grade. Somewhat exhaustive but it seems to
be working.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank
you,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Josh<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Paul
Carey [mailto:Paul@zed-uk.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, September 05, 2008 11:30
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Talbert,
Joshua<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Bldg-sim] Floors Built into
Grade</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Josh</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kind of depends on what
modelling tool you choose. DesignBuilder make this easy as you just draw
the ground next to the building using the ground obstructions component type
(from memory) and it then assigns the correct adjacency conditions to your
model. To do different wall panels you just use
sub-panels.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">IES, you can do similar
you just have to set adjacency conditions within the model. Seeing they
now have their google sketchup link that might make it quite easy to do
too. Same sort of thing in TAS.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Not sure in E-quest,
but I'm sure someone will let you know.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Paul</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Verdana color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Verdana">Dr Paul
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Talbert, Joshua<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 05 September 2008 16:19<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</st1:PersonName><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Bldg-sim] Floors Built into
Grade</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was wondering how do I model a
building that is built into a hill side where portions of floors are exposed and
portions are below grade. Any help would be much
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thank you,
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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