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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=643421223-21082008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Here's a nifty user expression to size baseboards based on
BTU's per unit area -- in this example 30 BTUs per SF:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=643421223-21082008><SPAN
class=643421223-21082008><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=2>#LR("SPACE","AREA")*-30<SPAN
class=940391323-21082008> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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class=643421223-21082008><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=940391323-21082008></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>
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class=643421223-21082008><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=940391323-21082008>Plug this into the 'Baseboards / Capacity' field for
each zone with baseboards (rightclick to get the context menu, select 'Edit/View
User Expression', etc.)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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class=643421223-21082008><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=940391323-21082008>Brando </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Robby
Oylear<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:54 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Andrew
Craig'; 'James Hansen'; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Bldg-sim] Baseboard heaters in VAV system<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was under the
impression that eQUEST either doesn’t size baseboards correctly or at all.
The few times I’ve had to use baseboards I have had to solve the
underheated hours by manually sizing the baseboard heaters at the zone
level. It’s a pretty tedious process.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Andrew Craig<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:41
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> James Hansen;
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bldg-sim] Baseboard heaters
in VAV system</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">James---<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In my opinion,
baseboards act a little funny in eQUEST. This is how I’ve made the
scenario you describe work: <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Under the Heating tab
of your unit (Coil Cap/Control), restore the default in the reheat entry so it
is blank. Make sure the Hot Water Loop is still enabled as the zone
heating source though. Under the Preheat/Baseboard tab, specify Baseboard
Source as the Hot Water Loop. You can change the default entries for the
baseboards (pressure drop, delta T, valve, etc.) if applicable. Then
for each perimeter zone, go into the heating tab and change the Baseboard
control to Thermostatic if it isn’t already selected. I’ve had trouble
getting the Outdoor Reset selection to work and most of our projects have
baseboards controlled by thermostats anyway. You can also enter the
capacity of the baseboards for each zone or let the system self-size. This
should work…if not I’d be happy to look at the inp.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>James Hansen<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, August 21, 2008 8:18
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [Bldg-sim] Baseboard heaters in
VAV system</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've got a building that cools with
shutoff VAV boxes and heats with perimeter hydronic baseboard
heaters.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">When I'm setting up my system, do I
specify hot water baseboard heaters and leave the Zone Heat Source set to "Not
Installed", or do I specify a hot water loop for the Zone Heat Source, and
eQuest knows to apply this to the baseboard heaters and NOT the shutoff VAV
boxes?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I currently have the Zone Heat
Source as "Not Installed", but it appears from my SS-R reports that there are
hundreds of hours of underheating, so something is not working correctly.
I've had my hot water loop set to snap, demand, and scheduled, so I think the
loop is running correctly.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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