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either doesn’t size baseboards correctly or at all. The few times I’ve
had to use baseboards I have had to solve the underheated hours by manually
sizing the baseboard heaters at the zone level. It’s a pretty
tedious process.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Andrew Craig<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 21, 2008
8:41 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> James Hansen;
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Baseboard
heaters in VAV system</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>In my opinion, baseboards act a little
funny in eQUEST. This is how I’ve made the scenario you describe
work: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Under the Heating tab of your unit (Coil Cap/Control),
restore the default in the reheat entry so it is blank. Make sure the Hot
Water Loop is still enabled as the zone heating source though. Under the
Preheat/Baseboard tab, specify Baseboard Source as the Hot Water Loop.
You can change the default entries for the baseboards (pressure drop, delta T,
valve, etc.) if applicable. Then for each perimeter zone, go into
the heating tab and change the Baseboard control to Thermostatic if it
isn’t already selected. I’ve had trouble getting the Outdoor
Reset selection to work and most of our projects have baseboards controlled by
thermostats anyway. You can also enter the capacity of the baseboards for
each zone or let the system self-size. This should work…if not
I’d be happy to look at the inp.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>James Hansen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, August 21, 2008
8:18 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] Baseboard
heaters in VAV system</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I've got a building that cools with shutoff VAV boxes and
heats with perimeter hydronic baseboard heaters.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>When I'm setting up my system, do I specify hot water baseboard
heaters and leave the Zone Heat Source set to "Not Installed", or do
I specify a hot water loop for the Zone Heat Source, and eQuest knows to apply
this to the baseboard heaters and NOT the shutoff VAV boxes?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I currently have the Zone Heat Source as "Not
Installed", but it appears from my SS-R reports that there are hundreds of
hours of underheating, so something is not working correctly. I've had my
hot water loop set to snap, demand, and scheduled, so I think the loop is running
correctly.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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