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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi John, and all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I had the same question as Mona regarding how to model spaces that
connect multiple floors (such as an atrium).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This would require creating donut-shaped floors. I used to use
VisualDOE, and I understood that you would have an issue<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>if you create a donut-shaped floor &#8211; the software would
not accept it (or am I right?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Are there similar issues in eQuest, and what are the techniques
to use to model a space of multiple floor height?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In eQuest, can we create a zone in a floor and make it &#8220;open
to below&#8221; like how you could do it in VisualDOE?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thanks a lot.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>George<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#17365D'>George Hu, PE, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#17365D'>President<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#17365D'>AWE | Air Water Energy Engineers, Inc.<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#17365D'>781.652.8688<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#17365D'>www.awe-e.com<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aulbach,
John<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 08, 2008 4:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mona A; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] model mezzine and differnet plans<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>My suggestion (not knowing the level of your modeling experience)
is to model the entire 26 floors in the Schematic design (all same size). You
will only see Floors 1, 2 and 26, as Floor 2 will be represented by a
multiplier.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Then switch to detailed Design Wizard (DD Wizard) and begin adding
each floor above the 2nd as a &quot;clone&quot; of the previous floor. Once you
get to floor 25 and look at the building 3-D, you will now see all 26 floors.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>NOW, staying in the DD Wizard, go back to floors 1 and 2, and,
using the Footprint definition on Wizard Screen 2, go to &quot;Custom&quot;.
This will allow you to draw on a lattice where you can STRETCH the 1st floor,
save it, and go to Floor 2 to do the same thing.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>You need to &quot;play&quot; with this a bit.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:blue'>John R. Aulbach, PE, CEM</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><em><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Project
Manager</span></em><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>Nexant, Inc</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>701
West Kimberly Ave., Suite 245</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Placentia,
CA 92870-6342 USA</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Phone:
714-524-4402</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Fax:
714-524-4407</span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>email:
<a href="mailto:jaulbach@nexant.com" title="mailto:jaulbach@nexant.com">jaulbach@nexant.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mona A<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 08, 2008 12:46 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] model mezzine and differnet plans</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>I would like to model a 26storey&nbsp;&nbsp; existing
building with EQuest, however the plans&nbsp; are in pdf format, and I am not
sure if I need to redraw them in autocad. &nbsp;the first two floors has
different shape and part of&nbsp;the 2nd&nbsp; floor&nbsp;is connected to 1st
floor as a 2 storey gallery and there are 2 parking under ground(under first
floor). I am wondering if I&nbsp;should model the whole building in the
schematic design without the first 2 floors and parkings and then add them to
the building? <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Building is rectangular in shape and the 24 story is
expanded over the first 2 floor.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>How can I model the 2 connected story? and how can I put
these 2 stories under the whole building.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks alot,<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>Mona A.<o:p></o:p></p>

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