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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There is also more documentation about
making a laminate in Optics5 and importing it into WINDOW that I think is quite
complete (if not, let me know). I put this together for a training session I
did on this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It can be found on the WINDOW 5 Knowledge
Base under the section NFRC, Laminated Glass – NFRC Procedures<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://windows.lbl.gov/software/window/52/W52_faq.html">http://windows.lbl.gov/software/window/52/W52_faq.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>which leads you to a page <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://windows.lbl.gov/software/window/52/NFRCLaminates.html">http://windows.lbl.gov/software/window/52/NFRCLaminates.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>with another link called Laminate
Procedures, which is the following PDF file:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://windows.lbl.gov/software/NFRC/Training/LaminateProcedure-Final.pdf">http://windows.lbl.gov/software/NFRC/Training/LaminateProcedure-Final.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>This PDF has detailed step by step
instructions about making laminates and bringing the laminate into WINDOW –
it’s really not that hard once you have done it one time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Sam Mason<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 18, 2008
9:36 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Window 5 -
Creating a laminated glazing system</span></font><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Jay,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>PVB layers exist in the optic5 database
and you have to create the laminate like Charlie said and import into windows5.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>There is good documentation from optics
5 and windows 5 about importing, but the fine details will probably give you a
headache. The documentation to import a layer into optics is available here: <a
href="http://windows.lbl.gov/materials/optics5/documentation/import_a_layer_in_optics.htm">http://windows.lbl.gov/materials/optics5/documentation/import_a_layer_in_optics.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Documenation for importing from optics
to windows is here: <a
href="http://windows.lbl.gov/software/window/FAQ/GlassLibUpdate.html">http://windows.lbl.gov/software/window/FAQ/GlassLibUpdate.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> I contacted Viracon for a a couple
glazing files that are not in the windows 5 database and the two people I spoke
with were both very helpful and sent me instructions for importing from optics
to windows. With their info, the documentation, and a little patience, it
finally worked out.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I sent you the two pdfs they sent me.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Sam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>--<br>
Sam Mason<br>
Atelier Ten<br>
sam.mason@atelierten.com<br>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'> </span></font><font
color="#1f497d"><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jay Keazer<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 18, 2008
11:48 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [Bldg-sim] Window 5 -
Creating a laminated glazing system<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>In
window 5 I want to create a laminated glazing system with the following layers:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Glass<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Air Space<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Glass<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>PVB Interlayer<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<font
size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]>Glass<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>When
I select 3 glass layers, the program defaults to air layers for #2 and #4
above. Is there a way to change this to a clear PVB Interlayer, and does
this type of layer exist in a database?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold;
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