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color=#0000ff size=2>Karin:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2>What would be the purpose of two loops?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT color=#0000ff>John R. Aulbach, PE, CEM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><EM>Project Manager</EM></FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><FONT color=#0000ff>Nexant,
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>701 West Kimberly Ave., Suite
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<DIV align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2>email: <A
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Karen
Walkerman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 08, 2008 4:01 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bldg-sim] WLHP primary
secondary loop<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Hi All,<BR><BR>Does anyone have experience setting up a
primary/secondary loop with WLHP loops? Is this
possible?<BR><BR>Thanks,<BR><BR>~karen~<BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 3:09 PM, Kevin Warren <<A
href="mailto:kevin@warren-energy.com">kevin@warren-energy.com</A>> wrote:<BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">We
looked at balance temperature in my Master's Thesis at the UW-Madison<BR>Solar
Lab back in 1992. It was sponsored by the Wisconsin Center for Demand<BR>Side
Research (now the Energy Center of Wisconsin). Balance temperature was<BR>not
the main focus of our research, but we examined interval gas
consumption<BR>for a sample of about 100 homes - all from a Midwestern city.
The data was<BR>on a 5-minute basis. I can't recall how the sample was
determined, so I'm<BR>unsure how representative was the mix of homes. They
were from a variety of<BR>sizes, but it looks like most of them were built in
the 80s, so they were<BR>newish homes at the time. The average balance temp
was about 65F. I'm not<BR>sure the spread around that mean.<BR><BR>Kevin
Warren, P.E., CEM, LEED AP<BR>Warren Energy Engineering, LLC<BR>(610) 255-3798
ph<BR>(610) 255-3406 f<BR>
<DIV class=Ih2E3d><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: <A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="mailto:equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>]On
Behalf Of Bishop,<BR>Bill<BR>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 9:29 AM<BR></DIV>
<DIV class=Ih2E3d>To: Abaza Hussein; <A
href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</A>;<BR><A
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<DIV class=Wj3C7c>Subject: Re: [Equest-users] [Bldg-sim] Balance point
temperature for<BR>houses<BR><BR><BR>Hussein,<BR><BR>I'll admit that I didn't
even know what the balance point temperature<BR>was. I did some quick
internet research and found this resource:<BR><BR><A
href="http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/vitalsigns/res/downloads/rp/balance_point/balance_point_big.pdf"
target=_blank>http://arch.ced.berkeley.edu/vitalsigns/res/downloads/rp/balance_point/b<BR>alance_point_big.pdf</A><BR><BR>There
is a lot of information about building heat gains and losses and<BR>how degree
days are calculated. It mentions on p.55 that the 65F number<BR>was
determined in the 1940s, and that newer, better insulated homes have<BR>a
lower balance point, but it doesn't suggest a number.<BR><BR>William Bishop,
EIT, LEED(r) AP | Pathfinder Engineers LLP<BR>Mechanical Engineer<BR><BR>3300
Monroe Ave., Suite 306<BR>Rochester, NY 14618<BR>TEL (585) 218-0730 Ext.
114<BR>FAX (585) 218-0737<BR><A
href="mailto:bbishop@pathfinderengineers.com">bbishop@pathfinderengineers.com</A><BR><BR><A
href="http://www.pathfinderengineers.com"
target=_blank>www.pathfinderengineers.com</A><BR>-----Original
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href="mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org</A>]
On Behalf Of Abaza<BR>Hussein<BR>Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:53 PM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org">equest-users@lists.onebuilding.org</A>;
<A
href="mailto:bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org">bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org</A><BR>Subject:
[Bldg-sim] Balance point temperature for houses<BR><BR>Could you please help.
Is there any recent data or survey about the<BR>balance<BR>point temperature
of homes in the US. Is the 65F still applicable?<BR>I appreciate any
input.<BR>Dr. H.
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