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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Do you know there is a way to create
Shading devices in IES. I know if you have already created them in Revit it is
a pain to recreate them in IES but I can tell you how if you don’t
already know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>James.Dudt@burthill.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 05, 2008 8:17 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CARNEY Ronan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Issues
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</span></font><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Shading
devices do not work in the Revit to IES link. It's something that I have
been beating my head against the wall about for a couple months now. There's
really no way to easily and quickly bring in external shading devices into IES
from Revit at this point in time, whether those are deep mullions or if they
are actual louvers/fins. Sorry for the bad news, but hopefully Autodesk
or IES will listen to those of us who need this feature and will incorporate it
soon.</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'><br>
James Dudt, EIT, LEED AP<br>
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Tel: +971 4 810 5700<br>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Dear
all,</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
am currently working on a project where I've to model energy, thermal and
daylight analysis on a very large building. I'm using the link between Revit
MEP2008 and IES. I've also got the full licence for IES's applications. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>However,
when I import the model into IES several issues and problems occur that I
require help with, they are as follows;</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1)
Some windows disappear. These windows are made up as curtain walls. Now most of
the windows in the model are done the same way but a particular few disappear,
troublesome.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2)
External shading devices disappear. These are modelled as a speciality family.
I've tried them previously as windows and they don’t work. I would like
to use them as a wall family but due to the architects 3D modelling procedures
and the complexity of the model, we can't. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>3)
One of my rooms is disappearing. Claims it has no bounding elements. But it has
6 bounding elements (walls, ceiling & floor). </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>4)
Internal light shelf becomes a "floor" leaving the space reshaped and
obscure.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I'd
appreciate any help on the matters and am willing to share my knowledge to help
others. I'm very versed with these issues so please, don’t be cheeky and
recommend Autodesk's White Papers on BIM or energy modelling as I've read them.
There is also a detailed discussion about this on Autodesk's forum </span></font><a
href="http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?forumID=188&threadID=626566"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?forumID=188&threadID=626566</span></font></a>
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