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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=140182721-12022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Certianly no argument here. I think the proposed
strategy on the project in question is to keep the fans at a minimum
ventiltion rate unless high levels of CO are detected.
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=140182721-12022008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Your comments are part of the reason why I wanted
to find out if there is any precedent for claiming credit for reduced garage
exhaust fan energy use.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=140182721-12022008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Mike</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> C. J. Gann [mailto:cjg04austin@swbell.net]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 12, 2008 3:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Michael
Tillou'; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Bldg-sim] Garage
Ventilation and LEED Credit EA-1<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=384164420-12022008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>CO is
not like CO2, it is deadly. Garage ventilation requirements (0.75 cfm/sf) are
based on fresh air change to reduce contaminant levels to acceptable values.
Besides, CO is not the only thing in auto exhaust, there is NOx, SOx, etc. so
you would have to "sense" all these and what if a sensor fails and the fans do
not energize? Seems too dangerous and risky to me. Efficiency cannot
trump life safety. Best to use open walls on two sides and natural
ventilation can replace 100% of the power exhaust requirements, assuming
the structure is above ground that is.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=384164420-12022008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Craig
J. Gann. P.E.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=384164420-12022008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><A
href="http://www.EnergySimulators.com">www.EnergySimulators.com</A></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Michael
Tillou<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 12, 2008 2:32 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bldg-sim] Garage
Ventilation and LEED Credit EA-1<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=109582720-12022008>Does anyone know if USGBC is allowing credit for CO
Control of parking garage ventilation? If anyone has any experience with
successfully getting credit for this efficiency measure can you please let me
know. I am curious what is considered a reasonable
baseline.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=109582720-12022008>Thanks in advance.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=109582720-12022008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=109582720-12022008>Mike</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=109582720-12022008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial Black" size=2>Michael Tillou, PE,
LEED</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial Black" size=2>Tillou Engineering,
LLC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial Black" size=1>Williamstown, MA
01267</FONT></DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face="Arial Black" size=1>P:
413-458-9870</FONT> <FONT face="Arial Black" size=1>C:
413-652-1087</FONT></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Kevin
Kyte<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Howe,
Timothy'; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bldg-sim]
Metal Building R-19 cavity insulation U-factor<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Howe,
Timothy<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 12, 2008 1:07 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Bldg-sim] Metal Building
R-19 cavity insulation U-factor<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal
style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ideograph-numeric; punctuation-wrap: hanging"><SPAN
lang=EN-AU style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">I have a metal building
wall construction with R-19 insulation between the
girts.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-AU style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Now in ASHRAE 90.1-2004
Appendix A, Table A3.2 the single layer of mineral fiber only goes up to
R-13.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="TEXT-AUTOSPACE: ideograph-numeric; punctuation-wrap: hanging"><SPAN
lang=EN-AU style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Any suggestion on how to
determine the U-Factor for this wall?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-AU
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">Tim.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-AU style="FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Timothy
Howe</SPAN></B><SPAN lang=EN-AU
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