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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#002060'>Josh,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>You said, “Is this Architect providing me with an appropriate
file, are there other ways to achieve better interoperability between his
architectural needs and my energy analysis needs?”<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>If you search onebuilding listserv archives <a
href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/mmsearch.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org">http://lists.onebuilding.org/mmsearch.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org</a>
using “Revit” there are 10 responses. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>There is an email where I put in a few links related to Revit, IES,
gbXML, etc. <a
href="http://lists.onebuilding.org/htdig.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org/2007-December/006503.html">http://lists.onebuilding.org/htdig.cgi/bldg-sim-onebuilding.org/2007-December/006503.html</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>One of the links speaks to your question regarding interoperability
in that, yes, there are certain items that need to be correctly modeled or
included in the model for energy analysis that are noted in the following
paper: Building Performance Analysis Using Revit at <a
href="http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/building_performance_analysis_using_revit.pdf">http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/building_performance_analysis_using_revit.pdf</a>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>I don’t have direct experience using Revit for energy
modeling. We recently started using Revit Architecture and I’ve
started down the path looking into how energy modeling relates to the Revit
model. Other ideas for you including posting in the Autodesk and / or
AUGI Revit discussion groups. It is my understanding that Autodesk is
working on a “sustainability dashboard” that in a future (or next?)
release may provide additional related analysis tools.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Tom<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thomas E. Momeyer, AIA, CCS </span><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#002060'><o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#002060'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Talbert,
Joshua<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 04, 2008 1:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bldg-sim] Equest and gbXML import<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Hello Again,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thank you all for your responses! Per all of your instructions I
registered with <a href="http://www.greenbuildingstudio.com/">www.greenbuildingstudio.com</a>
and attempted to use their services to create an Equest type *.BDL or *.INP
file from the gbXML file I was emailed. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>When I attempted to upload the *.XML file using the Green Building
Studio Client I was given an error that said:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> <i>“File does not have
a valid five digit zip code.”<o:p></o:p></i></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>So I opened the *.XML file with an
editor and added the project zip code and saved it with a new name. Then
I tried uploading it again via the Green Building Studio Client and I was
presented with this next error: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:.5in'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>“File received does not have
any building area defined. This is an essential requirement.”</span></i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Similarly, as I am also an experienced HAP V4.31 user I tried
importing the *.XML file into HAP which gave me the following error:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:3.0pt'><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:3.0pt'><i><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy'>“Data
from the specified gbXML file could not be imported. Usually this is due to one
of the following problems: (1) the file does not contain XML, (2) the file is
not formatted according to the gbXML schema, or (3) the file cannot be
found.”<o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Of those three options I am assuming the problem is the wrong
schema (2), as I know the file contains *.XML of some sort, and I do know where
it is. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>The architect with whom I am in collaboration used the File Menu
pulldown option in Revit to “Export to gbXML” and then they emailed
me the *.XML file that export command generated. Is there something that
can be down to verify the file is: (1) in the right schema, (2) has been
exported properly, (3) contains the information appropriate for Equest and/or
HAP imports?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>When I view the *.XML file I was emailed in my text editor it has
only a bunch of ‘surfaces’ defined, 1,025 to be exact, it seems to
me like there needs to be more in a gbXML file to perform and energy model than
just ‘surface’ polygon definitions. Is this Architect providing
me with an appropriate file, are there other ways to achieve better
interoperability between his architectural needs and my energy analysis needs?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thank you for all of your continued assistance.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Josh<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Brandon Nichols
[mailto:BrandonN@Hargis.biz] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Talbert, Joshua; bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-sim] Equest and gbXML import</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue'>For gbXML to eQuest, check out <a
href="http://www.greenbuildingstudio.com">www.greenbuildingstudio.com</a> ...</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue'>You can import the gbXML into GBS, then save as DOE-2
file. However, this DOE-2 file cannot be edited with eQuest
wizards. You'll need to do all editing going forward in the detailed
interface. If you've not done any projects yet with eQuest, there IS a
learning curve that seems to vary inversely with the cube of your overall level
of computing expertise ;-) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue'>So if the project is coming from Revit, be sure to <a
href="http://www.iesve.com/content/default.asp?page=s97_1">check out IES</a>.
Despite the relatively spendy price tag, you may be time and money ahead
in the race to obtain meaningful results.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:blue'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Talbert,
Joshua<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Josh Talbert (E-mail)<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] Equest and gbXML import</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Hello
All,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
am a moderately experienced Equest user and a first time inquirer to the Bldg
Sim forum, and I have just been posed with a question from my boss to which I
don’t know the answer. Is it possible to import a gbXML file into
Equest? We are trying to collaborate our design efforts with our client, an
architect working in Revit, who has send us a gbXML file to use for our energy
modeling purposes. Are their other software suites that will convert
gbXML to a regular Equest *.inp file?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I
look forward to working with and contributing further with you all at the Bldg
Sim forum.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Happy
New Year,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Josh
Talbert <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Papyrus;color:#003366'>Joshua W.
Talbert<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:Papyrus;color:#003366'>Mechanical
Engineer<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#003366'>LEED-AP<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#003366'>Hallam</span><b><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial Black","sans-serif";
color:#CC3300;position:relative;top:-1.0pt;mso-text-raise:1.0pt'>///</span></b><span
style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#003366'>ICS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#003366'>38 Eastwood Dr. Suite 200<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#003366'>S. Burlington, VT 05403<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#003366'>P: (802) 658-4891<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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