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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698022021-27122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Under Control Sequences try changing Operation to OA
Exhaust DT or OA Exhaust DH and specify temperature/enthalpy difference.
This should help with cooling/heating energy. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=698022021-27122007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Also under second tab (Heat Recovery 2) verify that
pressure drop @ design flow for make-up.exhaust is what you are
expecting. This should help with fan energy. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Corinne
Benedek<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 27, 2007 1:13 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
mike@andelmanlelek.com<BR><B>Cc:</B>
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Bldg-sim] energy recovery
and zone setpoints<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks for the
suggestion! – but interestingly enough, I do already have Mixed Air Reset as my
setting. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any idea what mechanism
it is that chooses which setpoint to follow? I can’t seem to find any
patterns that suggest what is happening.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
mike@andelmanlelek.com [mailto:mike@andelmanlelek.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:10
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Corinne
Benedek<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [Bldg-sim]
energy recovery and zone setpoints</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you have Make-up Air
Temp Ctrl at the default (floating), you will be delivering warmer air, driving
the space to the cooling setpoint and engaging mechanical cooling.
Recommend changing this to “mixed air reset”, that way you will have
normal economizer operation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mike<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Corinne Benedek<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, <st1:date w:st="on"
ls="trans" Month="12" Day="27" Year="2007">December 27, 2007</st1:date>
<st1:time w:st="on" Hour="15" Minute="56">3:56 PM</st1:time><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Steve Mignogna<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bldg-sim] energy recovery and
zone setpoints</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Both vent fan usage and
cooling increase significantly. From the hourly reports, it’s not looking
like it’s a balancing issue in terms of fans vs
cooling.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Heating does decrease
with the ERV. The fan energy increase seems to make sense in principle,
but I’m still not sure why there are hours when the cooling setpoint (75 deg F)
is being used in the model with the ERV where the heating setpoint (70) is being
used in the non-erv model.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-Corinne<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Steve
Mignogna [mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">smignogna@gmail.com</st1:PersonName>]
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Thursday, <st1:date
w:st="on" ls="trans" Month="12" Day="27" Year="2007">December 27,
2007</st1:date> <st1:time w:st="on" Hour="15" Minute="44">3:44
PM</st1:time><BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Corinne
Benedek<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B>
<bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Bldg-sim] energy recovery and
zone setpoints</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">In terms of the sub uses what
decreases? Sometimes your fan energy will increase so much that it over
shadows the decrease in cooling and heating. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Sent from my mobile wireless
device.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><BR>On <st1:date w:st="on" ls="trans"
Month="12" Day="27" Year="2007">Dec 27, 2007</st1:date>, at <st1:time w:st="on"
Hour="14" Minute="34">2:34 PM</st1:time>, "Corinne Benedek" <<A
href="mailto:corinne.benedek@arup.com">corinne.benedek@arup.com</A>>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have a question
about the way eQuest / DOE 2.2 decided whether it should be using the heating
or cooling zone setpoint for a particular hour.
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am modeling a PSZ
system with energy recovery (enthalpy wheel with mixed air reset and “modulate
hx” capacity control) and am finding that when I remove the energy recovery
from the model, energy use decreases. When I look at the hourly reports,
there are a number of hours where the “no erv” model is using a heating
setpoint and the “erv” model is using a cooling setpoint for the zone
particularly in the winter. Any ideas about how this setpoint gets
chosen and why the ERV would be affecting it?
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