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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Here is my question to and response from
the USGBC regarding this issue:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Dear LEED Info,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There has been a lot of chat on this item
and I wonder if there is a USGBC position – I found no reference to this
in the CIR’s:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Do existing buildings undergoing
renovation require the four-point compass orientation analysis?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'>Jeffrey,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;
font-family:Calibri'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><font size=2 face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri'>If the existing building being
renovated is pursuing LEED-NC rather than LEED-EB, then it would indeed be
required to undergo the specified analysis. This analysis is used to establish
the baseline for energy performance using the ASHRAE standard. LEED
doesn’t have any specific exemptions for existing buildings in this
requirement, but if ASHRAE has some kind of exemption, we will honor that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>So I guess the question then becomes an interpretation
of the Appendix G (Table G3.1 (f)) comment for existing buildings. Rotate or
not?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>My take has always been that new buildings
have the option to consider orientation but existing buildings cannot be
re-oriented so rotating the model does not really prove anything. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Any 90.1 code committee members or others out
there have an interpretation?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Neuhauser, Ken<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, November 29, 2007
2:31 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> keith_lane@g-g-d.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] <st1:place
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Orientation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I am not the authority, Keith, but I
believe that your interpretation (that existing buildings do not get rotated in
the baseline) is consistent with the intent of Appendix G. In new construction,
the decisions regarding building orientation will affect performance and that
performance should be measured against the baseline (although, there are cases,
such as a building that adjoins buildings to either side, where rotating the
baseline through all four orientations does not make sense). If
you’re improving an existing building, the existing conditions of
building enclosure components, including orientation, are an appropriate
baseline. When we apply Appendix G to existing buildings, we have also
found that “existing building envelopes” sometimes needs to be
parsed into existing building envelope components. For example, in a mill
rehab, the bearing walls may be serviceable and appropriately modeled “as
is” in the baseline, but missing windows or windows that are clearly not
serviceable we model as per the ASHRAE minimum compliance.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You should note, also, that an addendum to
the standard has removed the provision in the table under G3.1, 5c to distribute
windows uniformly in horizontal bands across the four orientations. That
should make all of our lives easier.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=DE
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span lang=DE style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Ken
Neuhauser, M.Arch, MSc.Arch, LEED AP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b><st1:Street w:st="on"><st1:address w:st="on">Keith Lane</st1:address></st1:Street><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 27, 2007
2:40 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on">LEED</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">Building</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>
Orientation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I am modeling an existing building for Energy &
Atmosphere Credit 1: Optimize Energy Performance. In LEED and table G3.1 No.
5(a) of ASHREA Standard 90.1-2004, it states that “the baseline building
performance shall be generated by simulating the building with its actual
orientation and again after rotating the entire building 90, 180, 270 degrees,
then averaging the results”. However table G3.1 No. 5(f) of ASHREA
Standard 90.1-2004 states: “for existing building envelopes, the baseline
building design shall reflect existing conditions prior to any revisions that
are part of the scope of work being evaluated.” Would this mean that you
do not need to simulate the building for the four orientations? It just
doesn’t seem to make sense to simulate the building in such a manner if
it is existing. I am new energy modeling for LEED credit and sincerely
appreciate any assistance.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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