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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>I'm confused as to whether any exterior lighting power can
differ between the proposed & baseline models. Any one have any experience
from EA Cr1 submissions?<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The Users Manual for App G states at the end of the
"Baseline Lighting" Section, ".... credit may be taken for improvements
in exterior lighting efficacy or wattage... the proposed building can take
credit for a more efficient system." So proposed parking lot lighting at 0.08
W/sf or whatever would be compared to a baseline of parking lot lighting at
0.15 W/sf. I believe façade lighting must be the same in both, as these are "non-tradable
surfaces" in Chapter Six.<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>But an apparently poorly-considered Credit Ruling from
4/25/07 simply states "No. Appendix G does not allow trade-offs for
exterior lighting," directly contradicting the UM.<o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Perhaps a post like this should be on the USGBC "engineers"
"member-to-member" forum, but I don't see much traffic there. <o:p></o:p></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Fred W. Porter, B.S., LEED A.P.<br>
Senior Engineer<br>
Architectural Energy Corp., <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Boulder</st1:City>
<st1:State w:st="on">CO</st1:State></st1:place></span></font><o:p></o:p>
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