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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Yes, the building is going for LEED
certification, therein lays my concern for shading from existing
buildings. I had originally thought to make the new construction walls
butting against the existing building adiabatic but I had not thought to make
them interior. Either way it still doesn’t account for shading on
the new construction exterior walls. I think I understand that one can
make custom shading devices but am unfamiliar with the process so I will
research. Currently, my thought is to just include the existing
structures and leave them unconditioned and make the connecting new
construction walls adiabatic. This way the shading will be accounted
for. I am wondering if it is expectable for <st1:place w:st="on">LEEDs</st1:place>.
Or would it be easier to create custom shading?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Again, thank you for your responses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>akram rosheidat<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, August 01, 2007
10:10 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] Building
additions and shading</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Paul<br>
<br>
You could also construct the shape of the existing building with "fixed
shades". This would simulate the shading accurately without having to
construct the whole existing building. The walls in contact with the existing
building should be designated ADIABATIC as suggested in previous emails. <br>
<br>
Akram Rosheidat, Architect<br>
ASU Ph.D. Program<br>
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<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>Paul Hay
<phay@cwjamaica.com></span></i></b> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>I have interpreted
the existing buildings to be perpendicular to the addition. If this is
the case and the buildings at the ends of the addition are large, they could
produce significant shading on the addition (especially if the exposed surfaces
of the addition face north and south). The problem is: how do you
quantify this? More than likely, you will have to create a schedule to
represent it if you don’t model the whole building. <u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Aulbach, John<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 07:28
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] Building
additions and shading<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Kevin:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I am getting a bit old and slow, so I
don't quite understand your questions.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If you are modeling a new construction
rectangle that has both ends (say top and bottom on a plan view) abutting
existing structures, I believe you can make these walls INTERIOR and ADIABATIC.
In that way, you have no outside influence on the wall, and no heat transfer to
another space.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You WILL, however, need to make the
changes in the .INP text file. You simply cannot do it in the eQuest overlay.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Why do you care about shading from
external sources. Just don't put those sources In !!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Kevin Kyte<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:15
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] Building
additions and shading</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Greetings, I am simulating a building that
from bird’s eye view looks like a big rectangle. Either end of the
new construction is connected to existing buildings. Furthermore, it
appears the first floor of the new construction extends into a renovation of
one of the pre-existing forms. How does one turn off shading on exterior
surfaces? Also, would it be better to modeling the existing buildings as
well? The new construction will be running on its own systems.<u5:p></u5:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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