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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You can also use FChart (program from <st1:PlaceType
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<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Madison</st1:place></st1:City>) to
model pool heating (with or without solar heating).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><b><font size=3 color="#333333" face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
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color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>405 Howard St.</span></font></st1:Street><font size=2 color=navy
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w:st="on">San Francisco</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">CA</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">94105</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:address><font color=navy><span
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(415) 402-5840</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'><br>
</span></font><font size=2 color=gray face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:gray'>Email </span></font><font color=navy><span
style='color:navy'> <a href="mailto:kendra.tupper@sf.fk.com%20"><font size=2
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>kendra.tupper@sf.fk.com</span></font></a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Fred Porter<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 30, 2007 4:44
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] Modeling a
pool in eQuest [mistake in 1st email]</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Sure, pools have been "modeled"
in DOE-2.2/eQuest. But:</span></font> <font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The evaporation from the pool depends on
the temperature and moisture of air in the pool room which will depend on the
operation and setpoints of any HVAC alternatives. But in DOE-2, no feedback
exists. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Furthermore, many of the interesting
options for dehumidification involve system configurations, and perhaps
controls, that are not represented by the program. (Wrap-around heat pipes,
etc., check the descriptions in the catalogs)</span></font> <font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>For heat recovery in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:State
w:st="on">Vermont</st1:State></st1:place> winters, be sure to turn
FROST-CONTROL on in the HR settings. And hope the program doesn't hang. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I thought someone, in <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">Canada</st1:country-region></st1:place> perhaps, had a
single-purpose indoor pool program. Or there's TRNSYS.</span></font> <font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:navy'>--</span></font> <font
color=navy><span style='color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=navy
face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New";
color:navy'>Fred W. Porter, B.S., LEED A.P.<br>
Senior Engineer<br>
Architectural Energy Corp.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Karen Walkerman
[mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 30, 2007 7:45
AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] Modeling a pool
in eQuest [mistake in 1st email]</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Oos. That's 55 lbs/hr total, not per sf. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=gmailquote><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 7/30/07, <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Karen
Walkerman</span></b> <<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</span></font></span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hello All, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Has anyone modeled a pool in eQuest? I am modeling a space that
contains a 24 X 44 foot pool. I'm estimating 55 lbs/hr of evaporation per
sf of surface area (for any period of time when the pool is uncoverd). At
a minimum I need to model space dehumidification and the energy needed to heat
the pool and replacement water. I checked the help files and am using a
reheat fan system, as suggested. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I can simply input a latent load into the space to simmulate the
humidity, and manually calculate and input an energy load for pool heat, but
I'd like to do better. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Thanks,<br>
<br clear=all>
<br>
-- <br>
Karen Walkerman<br>
802-238-0980<br>
<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com" target="_blank">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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-- <br>
Karen Walkerman<br>
802-238-0980<br>
<a href="mailto:kwalkerman@gmail.com">kwalkerman@gmail.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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