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<DIV><SPAN class=274263921-12042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Greetings fellow BLDG-SIMmers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=274263921-12042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=274263921-12042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Just a
note to add. We have a similar LEED v2.2 project for a food processing facility
where there is a <STRONG>LARGE</STRONG> refrigeration load. If we were to
include the total refrigeration load in both the denominator and numerator of
the DEC/ECB calculation (for percent energy cost savings), it would badly dilute
the percent savings.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'">In
our LEED template submission to USGBC we opted to exclude this "industrial
load," citing Section 2.3(c) from ASHRAE 90.1-2004, which </SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">allows
for an <I>industrial process</I> classification as follows<SPAN
class=274263921-12042007>:</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">"The
provisions of this standard [ASHRAE 90.1-2004] do not apply to:</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">(a)
single family structures...</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">(b)
buildings that do not use either electricity or fossil fuel...</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">(c)
equipment <SPAN class=274263921-12042007>and </SPAN>portions of building
systems that use energy primarily to provide<SPAN class=274263921-12042007>
for </SPAN>industrial, manufacturing, or commercial process.</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">In
other words, we<SPAN class=274263921-12042007>'ve</SPAN> made a
<STRONG>deliberate distinction</STRONG> between <EM>industrial process
loads</EM> and <EM>non-industrial/commercial building process loads</EM> such as
lighting, plug-loads, and office equipment.<SPAN class=274263921-12042007> We've
included the <EM>non-industrial/commercial building process loads</EM> but not
the <EM>industrial process loads</EM> in the DEC/ECB
calculation.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Arial Unicode MS'"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold">No
word back yet from USGBC<SPAN class=274263921-12042007> on this
approach</SPAN><SPAN class=274263921-12042007>, so we can't guarantee that our
interpretation is acceptable, but that's how we did it.</SPAN></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold"><SPAN
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class=274263921-12042007>..Tom</SPAN></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN class=274263921-12042007> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Marcus Sheffer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:11
PM<BR><B>To:</B> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B>Cc:</B>
yjiang_mit@yahoo.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [BLDG-SIM] LEED energy saving
calculations for Industrial Facility<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Under LEED v2.2 you must include all
of the process loads and equipment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The post-processing you describe was
used under LEED v2.1 and is not allowed under v2.2.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You are correct that the opportunity
for savings will be less in this type of facility as a result.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The USGBC has recognized that this is an
issue and is working on ways to address it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any thoughts are
welcome.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">Marcus Sheffer –
Vice Chair USGBC EA TAG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">Energy
Opportunities, Inc/a 7group Company<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">1200 E Camping
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Area Road</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Wellsville</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">PA</st1:State><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">17365</st1:PostalCode></st1:address><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">717-292-2636,
sheffer@sevengroup.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">www.sevengroup.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] On Behalf Of Yi Jiang<BR>Sent:
Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:17 PM<BR>To: BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR>Subject: [BLDG-SIM]
LEED energy saving calculations for Industrial
Facility<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We are working on a LEED NC 2.2
project to predict<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">energy savings with eQuest for a
200,000 sf machinery<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">workshop facility.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One question we have is whether to
include the process<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">loads in the workshop. We feel that
it makes the most<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">sense to include the heat generated
from the process<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">equipment as internal cooling load
and treated by HVAC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">systems. However, the electrical
power specifically to<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">process equipment should not be
included. For such a<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">machinery facility, the electrical
power to process<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">equipment constitutes 50% of total
electricity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">consumption, and can significantly
reduce the total<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">energy saving prediction by 10%. Has
anyone has<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">experiences with such a industrial
facility? Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">--Yi<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><PRE>
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