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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515343221-12042007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Marcus,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515343221-12042007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=515343221-12042007></SPAN><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=515343221-12042007>I think a
reasonable solution would be</SPAN><SPAN class=515343221-12042007> to
include the heat loads from machinery in the simulation but not the energy
required to operate the process load. This can be accomplished
by putting the process loads on a separate "meter" in the
simulation. The energy required to operate the process load is
ignored by the other building meters for cooling and lighting, but the heat
addition for the process loads are accounted for.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007>In this way, <SPAN
class=515343221-12042007> the LEED certification is for the building not
the process.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007>Many of he process measures for machine shops:
compressed air controls, fixing air leaks process, interlocking ventilation with
welding or painting operations, HVLP paint spray guns etc. are not
defined by the building designer. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007>Sincerely,</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=515343221-12042007></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN class=515343221-12042007><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
<P><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Garamond color=#800000>Jon McHugh,
PE</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P></SPAN></FONT></FONT>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> BLDG-SIM@gard.com
[mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Marcus Sheffer<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:11 PM<BR><B>To:</B> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B>Cc:</B>
yjiang_mit@yahoo.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [BLDG-SIM] LEED energy saving
calculations for Industrial Facility<BR></FONT><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=Section1>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Under LEED v2.2 you must include all
of the process loads and equipment.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The post-processing you describe was
used under LEED v2.1 and is not allowed under v2.2.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You are correct that the opportunity
for savings will be less in this type of facility as a result.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The USGBC has recognized that this is an
issue and is working on ways to address it.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any thoughts are
welcome.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">Marcus Sheffer –
Vice Chair USGBC EA TAG<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">Energy
Opportunities, Inc/a 7group Company<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">1200 E Camping
<st1:address w:st="on"><st1:Street w:st="on">Area Road</st1:Street>, <st1:City
w:st="on">Wellsville</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">PA</st1:State><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><st1:PostalCode
w:st="on">17365</st1:PostalCode></st1:address><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">717-292-2636,
sheffer@sevengroup.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes">www.sevengroup.com<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-no-proof: yes"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
BLDG-SIM@gard.com [mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com] On Behalf Of Yi Jiang<BR>Sent:
Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:17 PM<BR>To: BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR>Subject: [BLDG-SIM]
LEED energy saving calculations for Industrial
Facility<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We are working on a LEED NC 2.2
project to predict<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">energy savings with eQuest for a
200,000 sf machinery<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">workshop facility.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">One question we have is whether to
include the process<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">loads in the workshop. We feel that
it makes the most<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">sense to include the heat generated
from the process<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">equipment as internal cooling load
and treated by HVAC<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">systems. However, the electrical
power specifically to<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">process equipment should not be
included. For such a<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">machinery facility, the electrical
power to process<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">equipment constitutes 50% of total
electricity<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">consumption, and can significantly
reduce the total<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">energy saving prediction by 10%. Has
anyone has<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">experiences with such a industrial
facility? Thanks<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">--Yi<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoPlainText><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV><PRE>
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