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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I try and stay out of the many discussions hosted by
this fine site, but this time I have to join in. I support what John says and
what Russ is trying to accomplish. Over the last year or so I get the feeling
that site is being used to teach people the fundamentals of engineering via a
simulation tool. There is nothing to beat 25 years of experience, unless of
course you just happen to be younger than 30 and you don’t listen to old
farts, life sucks. But actually using a simulation to design a buildings system
then actually build the building and its systems, that is an achievement. Of
course the chance of that actually happening is very remote and that’s why
when you have been in the industry for more than 25 it might of actually
happened once or twice. We are the sex appeal of the industry these days as the
dreaded LEED points providers, but all this is irrelevant when it comes down to
actually contracting the designs. How many innovative ideas fall prey to value
engineering?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>We are heading in the right direction, but it is slow
and difficult.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Peter Simmonds Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>Associate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>p: (818) 377-8220<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>m: (818) 219-1284<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>IDEAS FOR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: bldg-sim@gard.com [mailto:bldg-sim@gard.com] On Behalf Of Russell Richman<br>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 7:17 AM<br>
To: bldg-sim@gard.com<br>
Cc: bldg-sim@gard.com<br>
Subject: [bldg-sim] Green Building Studio</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hello everybody,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>After reading some of the posts surrounding this
thread, I think we are missing <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>the point. Educating the masses. In my
opinion, that will be the single <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>deciding factor for future generations. As such,
ANY way we can educate will <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>help. One small step forward is still a step in
the correct direction. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Wherever, whatever, whoever...if the word gets out
about energy efficient <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>buildings then progress is being accomplished.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Just an observation from "the great white
north."<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Russ<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Quoting John Aulbach <jra_sac@yahoo.com>:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Carol:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Remember one thing. Just because someone doesn't
have<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> a "Green" label next to their title,
doesn't negate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> the PE license, the CEM license, and 25 years<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> experience of energy engineering and DOE2
experience<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> either. Or hourly computer energy modeling in
1977 on<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> a mainframe computer.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Just another test to pass...<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Just as Combined Heat and Power (CHP) has existed<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> under the names Co Generation and even
"Total Energy"<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> (1969), so the Green Building Movement has
evolved<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> from ER-30 downlights. 1st generation T-8 lamps,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> original "whinny" variable speed
drives, and alaog <st1:place w:st="on">EMS</st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> systems.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> I totally agree that, like the bombers vs.
missiles<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> controversy in national defense, it remains that<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> energy consultants, by ANY name,need to make sure<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> simulation results are REAL and POSSIBLE, not<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> something from a computer's fantasy. A HUMAN
needs to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> review data to verify its validity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> THAT doesn't come from any degree or title. That
comes<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> from EXPERIENCE.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>>
__________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> Do You Yahoo!?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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