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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jason, your question is sort of loaded as it leans
towards the standard solution of adding variable speed control to everything
that moves in order to reduce energy, which will work but not in all cases. I
would like to see development in modeling hybrid systems; these would be
displacement ventilation together with a radiant system for either heating or
cooling or both. TC6.5 has been pushing this work statement for more than a
year now and there is still a reluctance to pick up on the potential. Modeling
a true displacement ventilation system in DOE-2 would also be advantageous. Another
plus would be to look at operating a space to comfort criteria in accordance
with the new ASHRAE standard 55, 2004.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>We have been trying to emulate the performance of radiant
systems using DOE-2 (through EnergyPro) for title 24 compliance, our results
show that radiant systems and hybrid systems are performing 30-40% below title
24 requirements even with the moving base case.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I know this reply is slightly ‘off beat’
to what you were actually asking but you did ask and I would like to move
forward rather keep re-inventing the wheel.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Peter Simmonds Ph.D.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Associate<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>IBE Consulting Engineers<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sherman</span></font></st1:place></st1:City>
Oaks, CA 91423<o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>p: (818) 377-8220<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>f: (818) 377-8230<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'>m: (818) 219-1284<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>IDEAS FOR THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Jason Glazer [mailto:jglazer@gard.com] <br>
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 12:27 PM<br>
To: BLDG-SIM@GARD.COM<br>
Subject: [BLDG-SIM] List of modelable commercial building energy conservation
measures</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I'm trying to pull together a comprehensive list of <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>different energy conserving measures that can be
considered <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>for commercial buildings. I would like the measures to
be <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>"modelable" in a simulation program like
DOE-2 or <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>EnergyPlus. I am thinking broadly - more roof
insulation to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>variable speed cooling tower fans. Someone probably
has <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>already put together a good list. If anyone
knows of such <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>a list, please let me know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jason<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>=========================================================<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jason Glazer, P.E. jglazer AT gard DOT com
847 698 5686<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>GARD Analytics - http://www.gard.com/<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Building Energy Simulation and Analysis<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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