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<DIV><SPAN class=213204914-19042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I use
the Bldg-Sim list in the same manner. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Schaefer, Larry CAR
[mailto:Larry.Schaefer@carrier.utc.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 12, 2004
12:55 PM<BR><B>To:</B> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [BLDG-SIM] format
of the list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=166113919-12042004>I'll
add my voice to the crowd - the Bldg-Sim list has been valuable to me as a
means of monitoring what goes on in the "real-world" simulation world.
It's fairly easy for me to quickly look at a posting and figure out whether I
want to read it or not.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=166113919-12042004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=166113919-12042004>Unless a web-based forum offered the capability to
have all postings emailed to me, I doubt that I'd have the initiative to go to
the website and figure out what's new since the last time I was
there.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=166113919-12042004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=166113919-12042004>That
being said - there certainly is value in categorizing and archiving the
materials to make the information more accessible. I'd just hate to see
my particular use-case degraded because of it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=166113919-12042004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=166113919-12042004>Larry Schaefer</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=166113919-12042004>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Manager, Software Development</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Carrier Corporation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(315) 432-6229</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial
size=2>larry.schaefer@carrier.utc.com</FONT></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=166113919-12042004></SPAN><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=166113919-12042004><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=166113919-12042004> </SPAN>-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Vikram Sami
[mailto:Vikram@ensargroup.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 12, 2004 1:56
PM<BR><B>To:</B> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [BLDG-SIM] format of the
list<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV><SPAN class=343455017-12042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
agree with chip - the value of having something pop up in your email is
huge. I probably wouldn't bother to visit the forum site as much. Also, a
lot of times people send attachments by email in response to questions. This
might not be viable for a forum site. I still think there are benefits to
the forum though - the most important being the archive of threads. Jason -
do you have the infrastructure to build an archive?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=343455017-12042004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Vikram Sami</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
postman@gard.com [mailto:postman@gard.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Chip
Barnaby<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 12, 2004 10:42 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [BLDG-SIM] format of the
list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Alec et al --<BR><BR>I agree with all of your
points.<BR><BR>However, one of the values of the eMail format is that
activity announces itself. When a message appears, I take a moment
to read it. If I have something to add, I answer.<BR><BR>I imagine
that I would rarely go read a forum unless I had a specific question or
issue.<BR><BR>Can forums be set up so they send an occasional eMail noting
that 42 new postings have appeared in the last week? Or perhaps
there is some other reminder scheme commonly used?<BR><BR>It would be too
bad if the forum scheme resulted in a lot of
posting-into-the-void.<BR><BR>Chip Barnaby<BR><BR><BR>At 11:50 AM
04-12-04, Alec Stevens wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite"><FONT face=arial
size=2>Hello,<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>(a question
for Jason Glazer, perhaps)<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial
size=2>Is it possible, feasible, or worthwhile to change the format of
the bldg-sim list to a web-based forum?<BR>There are several forums that
I participate in from time to time that are web based.
<BR>Advantages are many: Threads are categorized by topic, and old
threads readily archived. Sample topics could include things like
DOE2 simulation questions, weather questions, Energy Plus questions, job
postings, conferences, calls for papers, etc. You can also decide
what you you are interested in and what you want to read about, rather
than having to sort out an inbox-full of posts about something that
doesn't tickle your fancy. <BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial
size=2>Not sure what the budget is for maintaining the bldg-sim list,
but I think the usefulness quotient would go up a notch if it were a web
forum.<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>Example web forums:
<BR><A
href="http://www.taunton.com/pages/forums.asp">http://www.taunton.com/pages/forums.asp</A><BR></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=arial size=2>What is the general sentiment out there? <BR>(if this
were a web-based forum, we could initiate a user poll to find out the
answer!)<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>p.s.: I am not
trying to start a ruckus here, I definitely enjoy the list and have
found it very useful over the years.
<BR></FONT> <BR> <BR><FONT face=arial
size=2>Cheers,<BR></FONT> <BR><FONT face=arial size=2>Alec Stevens,
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