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<DIV><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT face=Arial
size=2>Hello:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT size=2>There's a 1985
ASHRAE paper on using DOE-2 to do pool modeling...or at least
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT size=2>attempts to do so,
entitled: <SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Haberl, J., Claridge, D.
1985. "Retrofit Energy Studies of a Recreation Center", <I
style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"><SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>ASHRAE Transactions-Research,</I> Volume
91, Part 2, pp.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>1421 - 1433,
(June). In this paper we forced DOE-2 to do the
cooling</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">and dehumidification, which I is probably
not the best tool for doing this since DOE-2 does not directly control
humidity. </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">You should also get the
definitive work by Francis DeWinter, </SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=150593413-13062003><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Atlas Corp., written about the same time
on pool heat loss/gain equations and then use something like TRNSYS to
do your own modeling. I'm sure there may already be some good modeling for doing
the pool modeling, and a literature search of the obvious places would reveal
what others have done. However, combined pool modeling, with radiative,
mass exchange, convection, and system interactions would be a complex exercise
that needs an industrial-strength simulation. Hence the need
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">for a general purpose solver
like TRNSYS or EES, perhaps coupled with a CFD model that has a radiative
network and all the necessary environmental models (i.e., solar, wind, sky loss,
ground coupling, etc.).</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'"></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=150593413-13062003><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Jeff</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>8=! 8=) :=)
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<P><I><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D.,
P.E.............................jhaberl@esl.tamu.edu</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>Associate Professor....................................Office
Ph: 979-845-6507</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Department of
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<BR><I><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Energy Systems
Laboratory...........................FAX: 979-862-2457</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>Texas A&M
University..................................77843-3581</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>College Station, Texas, USA...........................URL:
www-esl.tamu.edu</FONT></I> </P>
<P><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>8=/ 8=) :=) 8=)
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> postman@gard.com
[mailto:postman@gard.com]<B>On Behalf Of </B>David Stewart<BR><B>Sent:</B>
Friday, June 13, 2003 7:58 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> [BLDG-SIM] Bulilding Simulation Software
for Pools<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Group:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am looking at a 50.000 indoor pool and my
question is this:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would Visual DOE be the preferred tool to
simulate the building. It will have a dehumidifcation heat pump for the
pool and a combination of distributed heat pumps and radiant floor water to
water heat pumps fed by an open loop system. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dave Stewart</FONT></DIV>
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