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<DIV><SPAN class=420470323-29032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
pretty sure the refrigeration component in 2.1e is for grocery stores...but
could be tricked </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=420470323-29032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>into
thinking it is an ice rink. I'm not current on 2.2.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=420470323-29032003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jeff</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><I><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D.,
P.E.............................jhaberl@esl.tamu.edu</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>Associate Professor....................................Office
Ph: 979-845-6507</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Department of
Architecture...........................Lab Ph: 979-845-6065</FONT></I>
<BR><I><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Energy Systems
Laboratory...........................FAX: 979-862-2457</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>Texas A&M
University..................................77843-3581</FONT></I> <BR><I><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>College Station, Texas, USA...........................URL:
www-esl.tamu.edu</FONT></I> </P>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Aulbach, John
[mailto:JAulbach@semprasolutions.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 28, 2003
5:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Jeff Haberl; BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:
[BLDG-SIM] Energy modeling of an ice ring<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT size=2>Hey, Jeff. I haven't tried it, but doesn't 2.1E TNG (The Next
Generation) have a refrigeration component that might be expanded to an ice
rink?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Also, eQuest Version 3.0 (DOE-2.2) claims to now have the
direct ability to do ice rinks via the refrigeration system link.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From: Jeff
Haberl [<A
href="mailto:jhaberl@esl.tamu.edu">mailto:jhaberl@esl.tamu.edu</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 3:24 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>To: BLDG-SIM@gard.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject: [BLDG-SIM]
Energy modeling of an ice ring</FONT> </P><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Hello:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>One can force DOE-2 into thinking there's a "cold" zone
sandwiched in</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>between two</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>zones, with a bit of tinkering with UA's to counteract minimum zone
temps.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>That's what we did in the following paper:</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Haberl, J., Claridge, D. 1985. "Retrofit Energy Studies of a
Recreation</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Center", ASHRAE
Transactions-Research, Volume 91, Part 2, pp. 1421 - 1433,</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>(June). </FONT></P>
<P><FONT size=2>Hopefully, some better methods are now available elsewhere
that model</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>interior conditions, including radiation
from the rink to surfaces inside</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>the</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>building...</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Jeff</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>8=! 8=) :=) 8=)
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<P><FONT size=2>Jeff S. Haberl, Ph.D.,
P.E.............................jhaberl@esl.tamu.edu</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Associate Professor....................................Office
Ph:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>979-845-6507</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Department of
Architecture...........................Lab Ph: 979-845-6065</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>Energy Systems Laboratory...........................FAX:
979-862-2457</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Texas A&M
University..................................77843-3581</FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2>College Station, Texas, USA...........................URL:
www-esl.tamu.edu</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>8=/ 8=) :=) 8=)
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<P><FONT size=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>From:
postman@gard.com [<A
href="mailto:postman@gard.com">mailto:postman@gard.com</A>]On Behalf Of Kateri
Heon</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 12:48 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>To: BLDG-SIM@gard.com</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Subject:
[BLDG-SIM] Energy modeling of an ice ring</FONT> </P><BR><BR>
<P><FONT size=2>Hi,</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>I am interested too in modeling ice ring with DOE-2.</FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2>Any information regarding ice ring modeling would be greatly
appreciated.</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT size=2>Thanks</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>Kateri</FONT> </P>
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