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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>I
agree with your point that energy conservation should begin with Architects but
I have reservation about how to implement it, given the current circumstances. Energy
simulation is a complex task oriented process. It needs <b style='mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'>a lot of
parameters to be specified</span></b> to kick off and that might not be
available when a designer/ Architect <span class=GramE>starts</span> the
design. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>Another
point to note is the lack of integrated UI (User Interface) – be it
graphical or textual. Most of the researches in Energy Simulation /
Conservation are aimed at developing stand-alone utility or piece of software
to do certain job. In my opinion, the emphasis should be placed on the
integration with the design process and final outcome or product. For example, I
want to kick off Energy Simulation module from within the CAD software I am
working with, without specifying further parameters and I want to check for
energy consumption after every change I made to the layout or component. I don’t
want to open a different window or software and spend a week to define and run
the simulation. You might as well say IFC or STEP is there to help. To be
honest these specifications seem just prototypes to me, I have reservations
about them being used in real life situations – not in next 3/5 years at
least.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>It
is wisely said; know your target audience before you even think to code your
software. Knowingly or unknowingly, Most of the software/ Interfaces are <b
style='mso-bidi-font-weight:normal'><span style='font-weight:bold;mso-bidi-font-weight:
normal'>targeted towards HVAC Engineers</span></b>, not architects. There’s
a fundamental difference in the think/ work process of an architect with
Engineers. I don’t think architects are too comfortable with what’s
available out there, commercially or research wise. This is the only reason for
not using them in profession. Nobody has problems with learning something new,
if it increases the quality of the product or increases efficiency of the
process.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>Monjur
Mourshed<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>IRUSE,
Civil Engineering, UCC. </span></font><st1:country-region><st1:place><font
size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'>Ireland</span></font></st1:place></st1:country-region><font
size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><a
href="http://www.ecaad.com/monjur">http://www.ecaad.com/monjur</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><a
href="http://www.ucc.ie/iruse/monjur">http://www.ucc.ie/iruse/monjur</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> postman@gard.com
[mailto:postman@gard.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mike
Roberts<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
Month="2" Day="12" Year="2003"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>12
February 2003</span></font></st1:date><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>
</span></font><st1:time Hour="16" Minute="6"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>16:06</span></font></st1:time><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] 3D Modeling +
Energy Analysis</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><st1:City><st1:place><font
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Warren</span></font></st1:place></st1:City>,<o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'm sure you have seen
the discussion of eQUEST over the last few days. I consider it and it's
DOE-2.2 calculation engine the best available for serious production
energy simulation. My business is energy simulation for other engineers and
architects, and we do probably 90 percent of our work with
eQUEST/DOE-2.2. It can even do rudimentary modeling, though probably
not what you would want to present to a client. eQUEST's wizard makes
preliminary analysis very quick and easy. You can then take that model as
far as you want with the Detailed Edit Mode.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On the other hand, any
good simulation program will have a significant learning curve. I believe
eQUEST to have the best user interface available, but the program is not
trivial to learn and use properly. I have worked with Marlin Addison on
presenting two day eQUEST training seminars to engineers and architects.
Normally, after a seminar, about 10 percent of the participants will contact me
with questions, indicating to me that they are actually using the
program. While I have felt for a long time that energy conservation
should start with the architect, few of the seminar participants are architects
and I cannot remember a single architect with a follow up question.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I would highly recommend
that whatever program makes your short list, you attend a training seminar to
determine if it is practical for you to actually use the program. I would
be happy to talk or email further about this subject.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Mike Roberts<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>816-942-8121<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> postman@gard.com
[mailto:postman@gard.com]<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Warren
A. Campbell<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><st1:date
Month="2" Day="12" Year="2003"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday, February 12, 2003</span></font></st1:date><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><st1:time
Hour="7" Minute="55"><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>7:55 AM</span></font></st1:time><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [BLDG-SIM] 3D Modeling +
Energy Analysis</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello All:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I have a request. I am an architect
in </span></font><st1:State><st1:place><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>North Carolina</span></font></st1:place></st1:State><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, and it is
my job to choose the next generation of software that my office will use in the
production of construction documents. On the one hand, I am considering a 3D
modeling program, such as Revit, in order to take advantage of both the
parametric and rendering capabilities. However, I also have a strong interest
in promoting high performance design. Therefore, I was hoping there exists
a program that can fluidly incorporate energy analysis into the modeling
software. Maybe there is even something on the horizon.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any suggestions?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Warren A. Campbell, RA<br>
Millennium 3 Design Group<br>
</span></font><st1:Street><st1:address><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1313 North Tryon Street</span></font></st1:address></st1:Street><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br>
</span></font><st1:place><st1:City><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Charlotte</span></font></st1:City><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>, </span></font><st1:State><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>NC</span></font></st1:State><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font><st1:PostalCode><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>28206</span></font></st1:PostalCode></st1:place><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br>
(704) 333-1965.Ext 22 phone<br>
(704) 376-7122 fax<br>
<a href="mailto:wcampbell@m3dg.com">wcampbell@m3dg.com</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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