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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=970382701-07022003>We
also use eQuest on our design jobs, in a similar fashion. Often we use the
wizard to input as much as possible and then we typically have to bail out and
use the detailed interface. Sometimes we have to bail out of eQuest and use the
most recent build of the DOE2.2 engine directly. We provide constant feedback to
the developers of both eQuest and the DOE2.2 engine regarding bugs or problems
we are encountering. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=970382701-07022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=970382701-07022003>I
would be interested in a User Group.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<P><B><FONT face=Arial color=#808080 size=2>Tracy L. Cornish</FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial color=#808080 size=2>, P.E., Mechanical Engineer, Taylor Engineering,
LLC</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=#808080 size=2>1305 Marina Village
Parkway, Suite 101, Alameda CA 94501-1028</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
color=#808080 size=2>(510) 749-9135 office, (510) 749-9136 fax, (925) 381-8183
mobile</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#808080
size=2>tcornish@taylor-engineering.com</FONT><U></U><U></U><U></U> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>www.taylor-engineering.com </FONT></P><BR>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mark E. Case
[mailto:mcase@etcgrp.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:59
PM<BR><B>To:</B> BLDG-SIM@GARD.COM<BR><B>Subject:</B> [BLDG-SIM]
eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's Group<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">We use eQuest
extensively, sometimes using the wizard mode to get started, sometimes not. We
began using DOE2.1d when it was first available on PC platforms and kept with
it through PowerDOE and the `never officially released' DOE2.2. We often use
eQuest to create BDL code which we then edit with a text editor. I must
admit I'm sometimes surprised to hear of modelers (often in Academic
situations) still working with 2.1e when `2.2' is a significant improvement
and is absolutely free via eQuest. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I, like John, am
holding off on EnergyPlus until I can justify the tremendous expense of
training my people on a new product that is still not ready for prime time.
Eventually, I hope, but not yet. I'm guessing five years before there is a
product that is enough better than eQuest to justify the investment. (And
that's assuming eQuest doesn't continue to improve). </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I imagine that there
are numerous eQuest users that are not aware of the BLDG-SIM forum. Too bad -
it would be nice to see more interaction around the eQuest program.
Perhaps SCE/EDR could provide an information blurb about this forum on
their web site or to everyone who down loads eQuest.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Mark E. Case,
P.E.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">etc Group,
Inc.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Salt Lake
City</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">, </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
postman@gard.com [mailto:postman@gard.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Mike Roberts<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:03
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
BLDG-SIM@GARD.COM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[BLDG-SIM] eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's Group</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">John,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">There are at least a few of us out here
using eQUEST/DOE-2.2 on a regular basis. I started using DOE-2.1 back
when it was Cal-ERDA 1.3 (about 1979) and have followed the Hirsch upgrades
through PowerDOE and eQUEST. I have only seen a Beta version of eQUEST
3.0, but it looks very interesting.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">My specialty is energy simulation and
I use eQUEST and the "Detailed Data Edit" Mode on almost all of our
energy simulation jobs. JJ Hirsch and Associates are looking for ways to
offer more support, but probably at a price. I can offer some support,
free if it is trivial (to me) or at my regular rates if it is more
involved. Our web site is <A
href="http://www.roberts-engineering.com/">http://www.roberts-engineering.com/</A>.
Hopefully, you will find some useful information
there.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I think the User Group is a good idea,
though you already have a discussion forum through <A
href="mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com">BLDG-SIM@gard.com</A>. Let me know how
much interest you get.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Mike</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
postman@gard.com [mailto:postman@gard.com]<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Aulbach, John<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:43
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
BLDG-SIM@gard.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[BLDG-SIM] eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's Group</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">May I ask how many people are attempting to use
eQuest/DOE-2.2? I would like to form a User Group for exchanging questions
and war stories, as the creators of the program do not apparently have
funding for very much support (Sad).</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I have taken Marlin Addison's a few times, with the
last version I have (3.0) FINALLY beginning to make sense. I have used
DOE-2.1 since 1984 and have some small familiarity with the intent,
switches, and boundaries of the program. Until a decent front end come along
for EnergyPlus, this is the way I am going.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">There claims to be over 7,000 downloads of the
program. Anyone getting into the "world past the Wizards" yet?</SPAN></FONT>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">John R. Aulbach, PE, CEM</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Project Engineer</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Sempra Energy
Solutions</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">555
West Fifth Street</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Mail Location 27F3</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
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<BR><FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Tel: (213) 244-8551 Cell
(213) 219-4875</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT size=2><SPAN
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<P style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">"Sempra Energy Solutions is not the same company as
SDG&E/ SoCalGas, the Utilities. Sempra Energy Solutions is not
regulated by the California Public Utilities Commission, and you do not have
to buy Sempra Energy Solutions products or services to continue to receive
quality regulated service from the Utilities." </SPAN></FONT></P>
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