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We use DOE2.1e in our shop. Primarily because of the significant
verification against measured data that has been done on DOE2.1e over the
years. The other reason is that ASHRAE 90.1 and in particular LEED
require simulation using DOE2.1e. <br><br>
Here in Canada, the Model National Energy Code, Performance Option
required simulation using EE4 (a free compliance tool http://www.ee4.com
) that used the DOE2.1e engine from Hirsh and Associates. Similar
to eQuest, you can use EE4 to quickly generate an input file then edit it
for you particular situation.<br><br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">We
use eQuest extensively, sometimes using the wizard mode to get started,
sometimes not. We began using DOE2.1d when it was first available on PC
platforms and kept with it through PowerDOE and the `never officially
released DOE2.2. We often use eQuest to create BDL code which we then
edit with a text editor. I must admit I m sometimes surprised to
hear of modelers (often in Academic situations) still working with 2.1e
when `2.2 is a significant improvement and is absolutely free via eQuest.
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">I, like John, am holding off on
EnergyPlus until I can justify the tremendous expense of training my
people on a new product that is still not ready for prime time.
Eventually, I hope, but not yet. I m guessing five years before there is
a product that is enough better than eQuest to justify the investment.
(And that s assuming eQuest doesn t continue to improve). <br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">I imagine that there are
numerous eQuest users that are not aware of the BLDG-SIM forum. Too bad
it would be nice to see more interaction around the eQuest program.
Perhaps SCE/EDR could provide an information blurb about this forum on
their web site or to everyone who down loads eQuest.<br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">Mark E. Case, P.E.<br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">etc Group, Inc.<br>
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<font face="arial" size=2 color="#000080">Salt Lake City, Utah<br>
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<b>From:</b> postman@gard.com
[<a href="mailto:postman@gard.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:postman@gard.com</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Roberts<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 04, 2003 1:03 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> BLDG-SIM@GARD.COM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [BLDG-SIM] eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's Group<br>
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times">John,<br>
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times">There are at least a few of us out
here using eQUEST/DOE-2.2 on a regular basis. I started using
DOE-2.1 back when it was Cal-ERDA 1.3 (about 1979) and have followed the
Hirsch upgrades through PowerDOE and eQUEST. I have only seen a
Beta version of eQUEST 3.0, but it looks very interesting.<br>
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times">My specialty is energy simulation and
I use eQUEST and the "Detailed Data Edit" Mode on almost all of
our energy simulation jobs. JJ Hirsch and Associates are looking
for ways to offer more support, but probably at a price. I can
offer some support, free if it is trivial (to me) or at my regular rates
if it is more involved. Our web site is
<a href="http://www.roberts-engineering.com/">http://www.roberts-engineering.com/</a>.
Hopefully, you will find some useful information there.<br>
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times">I think the User Group is a good
idea, though you already have a discussion forum through
<a href="mailto:BLDG-SIM@gard.com">BLDG-SIM@gard.com</a>. Let me
know how much interest you get.<br>
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<font face="Times New Roman, Times">Mike</font>
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<dd>-----Original Message-----
<dd>From:</b> postman@gard.com
[<a href="mailto:postman@gard.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:postman@gard.com</a>]On
Behalf Of </b>Aulbach, John
<dd>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:43 AM
<dd>To:</b> BLDG-SIM@gard.com
<dd>Subject:</b> [BLDG-SIM] eQuest/DOE-2.2 User's
Group</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=2>
<dd>May I ask how many people are attempting to use eQuest/DOE-2.2? I
would like to form a User Group for exchanging questions and war stories,
as the creators of the program do not apparently have funding for very
much support (Sad).</font><font face="Times New Roman, Times" size=2>
<dd>I have taken Marlin Addison's a few times, with the last version I
have (3.0) FINALLY beginning to make sense. I have used DOE-2.1 since
1984 and have some small familiarity with the intent, switches, and
boundaries of the program. Until a decent front end come along for
EnergyPlus, this is the way I am
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<dd>There claims to be over 7,000 downloads of the program. Anyone
getting into the "world past the Wizards" yet?</font>
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