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<DIV><SPAN class=310223217-27012000><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2>I must
confess I have no experience with TRNSYS. But I also don't seem to see anywhere
near as many references to it in the literature as I do for DOE2.x. Is this a
product of market penetration or a bias that DOE2.x is used more for research
and is therefor referenced in open publications more often?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Werner Keilholz
[mailto:werner@cstb.fr] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 27, 2000 1:38
AM<BR><B>To:</B> mcase@etcgrp.com<BR><B>Cc:</B>
jpkarasa@cbg-engrs.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [BLDG-SIM] hornets
nest?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>I'm only a computer science kind of person, with no
real in-depth insight <BR>in the underlying problems, but, in your opinion,
where does the <BR>TRNSYS multizone building model stand in this discussion -
developped <BR>by a private company, with its graphical interface (also
developped by <BR>a private company) and hundreds of users in private industry ?
<P>Again, this is a naive question, please forgive me. (And yes, I am involved
in <BR>TRNSYS developpment and biased).
<P>I wonder if I could dare to send this to the list ... maybe not :-)
<P>Werner
<P>Mark Case wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE = CITE> <SPAN class=590333521-26012000><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>Most of you are undoubtedly
aware of the recent controversy over DOE2.2 PowerDoe and EnergyPlus. I know
that many people on this list are actively involved in one or more of these
programs. </FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=590333521-26012000><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT
size=-1>I think this list is as good a place as any to start a serious
discussion about where things are going, why, and how we (users of the
tools) feel about these things. </FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=590333521-26012000></SPAN><SPAN class=590333521-26012000><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>I'll start by boldly stating
that I don't believe EnergyPlus will provide a truly useful (on-the-ground
useful) tool for many years to come. The history of DOE and the national
labs in creating and releasing such software is not very
good. </FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=590333521-26012000><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>Are the labs and developers
trying to create a product useable in a competitive design consulting world?
The last thing we need is another arcane simulation package with no front
end or post processor - been there, done that. Perhaps new algorithyms and
advanced coding are needed but without the interface they won't help me at
all. I'd rather use the `older' ones and keep the ability to show designers
what I'm doing. </FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=590333521-26012000></SPAN><SPAN class=590333521-26012000><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT size=-1>One more comment and question -
the DOE is spending our money to create new code and have arguably abandoned
the multi-million dollar investment in previous DOE2.x developent. Is this
the best use of taxpayer money?</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> <SPAN
class=590333521-26012000><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#000000><FONT
size=-1>Come on everybody - don't be afraid to weigh-in on this - let's hear
your thoughts!</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN> <PRE>======================================================
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