[Bldg-sim] Simulation software recommendations

Chris Yates chris.malcolm.yates at gmail.com
Sat Aug 20 06:14:16 PDT 2022


"Best thing since sliced bread!". Haha! Watching the movie, I'd venture
that many others' opinions (including Joe Clarke's) carry infinitely more
weight than my own!

On Sat, 20 Aug 2022, 05:25 Daniel Ruepp via Bldg-sim, <
bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:

> Quote Chris Yates: "IDA ICE is the best thing since sliced bread" *;)*
> Watch this: https://youtu.be/cAS7qbIznHQ
>
> It covers all your needs.
>
> Since you are located in Switzerland, IDA ICE makes even more sense, the
> Solutions company (courses+support) is located in Zug and the Swiss
> localization covers all Swiss standards, including SIA 380.
>
> Best
> Daniel
>
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> Am .08.2022, 21:35 Uhr, schrieb Sheila Sagerer via Bldg-sim <
> bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>:
>
>
> I have not used IDA ICE, but have used both EnergyPlus and IESVE. Both are
> robust, but I’m not as sure about the DesignBuilder interface. The last
> time I used DB, I could only take my model so far, then had to switch to
> the E+ IDF editor due to the complexity being beyond the abilities of DB.
> That was a nightmare!
>
> IESVE is very robust with a lot of modules available, including CFD for
> natural ventilation. It has a steep learning curve, but so does EnergyPlus!
> IESVE has a pretty good library of the most common HVAC equipment types
> with various control setups and options. It is further customizable. With
> Gaeia interface, it has the capability of modeling groundsource
> interactions. It can also handle DES plants…however, if you’re submitting
> for LEED, post processing for DES utility rates will be needed.
>
>
> Sheila Sagerer, LEED AP BD+C, BEMP
> Senior High Performance Building Analyst
> Ecoworks Studio
> sheila at ecoworks-studio.com
> (717) 341-1496
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 19, 2022, at 12:05 PM, Duggin, Cory via Bldg-sim <
> bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Sounds like IESVE checks all the boxes you are looking for.  Since they
> are based on Scotland, they have tools and systems for that market.
>
>
>
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> *From:* Bldg-sim <bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org> *On Behalf Of *Leenknegt
> Sarah via Bldg-sim
> *Sent:* Friday, August 19, 2022 8:29 AM
> *To:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Bldg-sim] Simulation software recommendations
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> I would like to ask advice regarding which simulation tool would best
> suite our needs. We are an engineering bureau in Zürich, with long years of
> experience in building simulation. We deal with: load calculations, comfort
> evaluations, daylight, natural ventilation, HVAC optimization, LEED
> certification or support in development of innovative energy concepts.
>
>
>
> Our current tool is TAS from edsl, which has large benefits in
> 3D-modelling, fast and stable calculations and user friendliness, but is
> lacking regarding HVAC modelling (geothermal concepts, European market
> oriented systems) and has flaws regarding solar shading and natural
> ventilation controls.
>
>
>
> It is very clear that there is no “best” simulation tool, but very
> difficult to guess which one is best for us. I can read summaries of
> features and watch video tutorials, discuss with customer services, which I
> am doing, but the most useful input is from the user side. I am hoping I
> can get some recommendations here.
>
>
>
> What we need:
>
>    - Reliable modelling of natural or mixed mode ventilation (TAS has a
>    time step of 1h -> no proper natural ventilation modelling possible)
>    - Able to run daylight controlled interior lighting
>    - Very strong HVAC modelling, with predefined components and
>    libraries, able to deal with large numbers of zones
>    - Automated export of results (select a group of zones and a list of
>    parameters and put them in a .txt file)
>    - Suitable for commercial use (good support, tutorials etc. available,
>    no need for open source, userfriendly)
>
>
>
> Nice to have:
>
>    - Efficient 3D-modelling, able to deal with challenging architecture
>    - Able to process a high number of zones (with TAS, I can run a
>    1000-zones model in about one hour, albeit without HVAC systems)
>    - LEED plugins
>    - Daylight calculations
>
>
>
> On our shortlist:
>
>    - E+/Designbuilder
>    - IESVE
>    - IDA ICE
>
>
>
> I appologize for the long post and would very much welcome any inputs!
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance,
>
>
>
> Sarah
>
>
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