[Bldg-sim] rintveld at ptrenergy.com

Tue Aug 25 12:15:23 PDT 2020

Hi Alex,

Ok, I see. Thanks for sending this info. Yes it all points to modelling the
same heating system in baseline and proposed and efficiency improvements or
credits for infrared heaters can be taken into account.

Thank You

Syed Hussaini, PE, LEED GA

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On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 10:47 AM Chapin, Alex N <
Alex.Chapin at masonandhanger.com> wrote:

> Hi Syed,
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> The baseline system types are only applicable to conditioned portions of
> the building (hence why exception a) to Section G3.1.1 uses the term
> conditioned floor area). Therefore, since you indicate that the Proposed
> design is semiheated for freeze protection only (you should double check
> the definition of semiheated space in the Section 3.2 definitions though),
> the Baseline System would be modeled as heating only of the same type as
> the proposed, but you can take credit for any efficiency improvements if
> applicable.
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> Alex
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> *From:* Syed Safiuddin Hussaini [mailto:safi.hussaini91 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 25, 2020 12:50 PM
> *To:* Jim Dirkes <Jim at fsmgmt.co>
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> Jim,
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> Thank for sending this info. Actually ASHRAE 90.1-2007 code did not have
> this option for semi heated spaces which I was using for a 179d  project.
> This makes sense.
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> Thank You
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> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 4:34 AM Jim Dirkes <Jim at fsmgmt.co> wrote:
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> I think your Baseline HVAC system should be System #9 or #10
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> Hello All,
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> I am doing an Appendix G model for a warehouse building that has a
> semi-heated space for freeze protection only by using infrared heaters. But
> it is a 35,000 SFT warehouse building and if I go by Table G3.1.1A the
> system type to be used will be System 5 Packaged VAV with Reheat in the
> Baseline 90.1 model and I would have infrared radiant heaters in the
> proposed model. Should I use the same system type in both Baseline and
> Proposed model i.e. infrared radiant heaters with same efficiencies and
> temperature setpoints or can the Baseline system be Packaged VAV with
> Reheat and infrared radaint heaters in the proposed model ?
>
> Thank You
>
> Syed Hussaini, PE, LEED GA
>
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