[Bldg-sim] cold war, cold weather...

Linda Lawrie linda at fortlawrie.com
Thu Jun 6 06:30:27 PDT 2019


I have a copy of the Engineering Weather Data 
document (1978 version).  (Thanks, Bob H).

And many other historical "weather data" 
documents though not sure how many discuss heating/cooling design data.

Linda

At 04:32 AM 6/6/2019, Chris Yates via Bldg-sim wrote:

>Wow. You know what Michael. I think you have the 
>makings of an ASHRAE journal atricle! I want to 
>do something similar for CIBSE. I'd love to use your findings.
>On 5 Jun 2019 23:21, "Michael J Witte via 
>Bldg-sim" 
><<mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:
>I haven't seen a reply yet to this, so here goes . . .
>
>The oldest ASHRAE handbook on my shelf is a 1972 
>HOF (thanks Bob H.!). Chapter 33 is Weather Data 
>and Design Conditions. The reference list includes these two primary sources:
>
>Evaluated Weather Data For Cooling Equipment 
>Design, Addendum No. 1, Summer and Winter Data 
>(Fluor Products Company, Santa Rosa, Calif., 1964).
>and
>Engineering Weather Data (Army, Navy, and Air Force Manual TM 5-785, 1963).
>
>You can buy a copy of the 1958 edition of Evaluated Weather Data on amazon
><https://www.amazon.com/Evaluated-Weather-Cooling-Equipment-Design/dp/B000HDSNFY>https://www.amazon.com/Evaluated-Weather-Cooling-Equipment-Design/dp/B000HDSNFY
>
>I bet someone out there has a copy of the 
>Engineering Weather Data manual on a shelf. Some 
>quick searching leads to this later online version.
><http://web.utk.edu/~archinfo/EcoDesign/escurriculum/weather_data/weather_data_summ.html>http://web.utk.edu/~archinfo/EcoDesign/escurriculum/weather_data/weather_data_summ.html
>which says:
>
>"The Engineering Weather Data (EWD) and other 
>products were developed by the Air Force Combat 
>Climatology Center (AFCCC). Data is provided for 
>approximately 800 stations worldwide. Intended 
>to support design and construction of DOD 
>facilities, the format is slanted toward 
>professional engineers, but could have numerous other uses. "
>
>Searching AFCCC leads here to a fascinating history.
><https://www.airweaassn.org/Library/afwa/history.html>https://www.airweaassn.org/Library/afwa/history.html
>
>"The mission of AFCCC is one of military applied 
>climatology. We collect, maintain, and apply 
>worldwide weather data, creating climatological 
>products to strengthen the combat capability of 
>America's warfighters. AFCCC's support to 
>America's warfighters has a long history."
>
>And a fitting excerpt on the 75th anniversary of D-Day:
>
>"There was probably no WWII operation, major or 
>minor, that did not include climatological 
>input. The planning for every landing, mission, 
>and offensive, including the D-Day invasion in 
>1944 and the atomic bombing of Japan, required 
>extensive climatological preparation and analyses."
>
>So, Chris, your impression appears correct. 
>Weather data statistics were motivated by 
>military requirements (for better or worse), and marketing cooling equipment.
>
>Mike
>
>p.s. The pages from the 1972 HOF are included in 
>a digitized NBSLD manual (one of the great 
>mother programs of building simulation), pdf p. 287ff.
><https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-9bcc6856169c63cf2c5ab81af189bd75/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-9bcc6856169c63cf2c5ab81af189bd75.pdf>https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GOVPUB-C13-9bcc6856169c63cf2c5ab81af189bd75/pdf/GOVPUB-C13-9bcc6856169c63cf2c5ab81af189bd75.pdf
>
>
>
>On 5/20/2019 4:16 AM, Chris Yates via Bldg-sim wrote:
>>Hi All
>>
>>Does anybody have any interesting background on 
>>the sources of (and motivations for 
>>calculating) the outdoor design conditions now available in ASHRAE HOF?
>>
>>My impression is that it was possibly derived 
>>for the purposes of keeping B52's and allied 
>>v-bombers ready for action at a moment's notice.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>
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