[Bldg-sim] ASHRAE 90.1 2013 Baseline Envelope for Existing buildings

John Aulbach via Bldg-sim bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Tue May 10 11:12:48 PDT 2016


Sir:
I have done a few ASHRAE 90.1 vs new envelope buildings in New York. In each case, I started the baseline with the existing WWR. Your Baseline is not a mythical ASHRAE building, it is one that ergonomically (good word ??) exists. You just place the ASHRAE 90.1 envelope metrics within. The increase in glazing is something that you must carry with more improved HVAC and/or lighting to get the building's EUI less than the original building Upgraded to ASHRAE metrics).
John R. Aulbach, PE 

    On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:57 AM, Madhav Munshi via Bldg-sim <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org> wrote:
 

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|  | DESIGN  |  | MODELS  |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
|  | Existing Building  | Proposed Design  |  | Proposed Model  | ASHRAE 90.1-2013 Baseline ALT 1  | ASHRAE 90.1-2013 Baseline ALT 2  |
| Roofs  | Existing un-insulated roof  | New roof, fully insulated  |  | New roof, fully insulated  | Fully insulated roof as per table 5.5  | Fully insulated roof as per table 5.5  |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
| Walls  | Uninsulated masonry walls  | Add rigid insulation  |  | Masonry wall plus rigid insulation  | Steel framed walls as per table 5.5  | Steel framed walls as per table 5.5  |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
| Glazing  | Single pane glazing  | Double pane within same opening cavity  |  | Double pane within same opening cavity  | Metal framed all other as per table 5.5  | Metal framed all other as per table 5.5  |
|  |  | New curtain wall  |  | New curtain wall  | Metal curtain wall as per table 5.5  | No [No increase in fenestration area]  |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
| WWR  | 30%  | 35%  |  | 35%  | 35%  | 30%  |
|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
| Glazing distribution  |  |  |  | as per design  | as per Proposed Design  | as per Existing building  |

   Any guidance is much appreciated.    Thank you    Madhav        MADHAV MUNSHI| BEMP, LEED AP BD+C    Kohler Ronan, LLC |www.kohlerronan.com mmunshi at kohlerronan.com       171 Madison Avenue, New York, NY 10016 212.695.2422  F 212.695.2423    93 Lake Avenue, Danbury, CT 06810 203.778.1017  F 203.778.1018     Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.    
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