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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>James, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I have nothing constructive to
offer, except to:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span
style='color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>
</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Copy this query over
to [Bldg-rate], which has less overall activity but a pertinent and distinct group
of subscribers from [bldg-sim] – you may get additional useful input via
that list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span style='color:#1F497D'>Agree wholeheartedly
with the subject line.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Actually, I might strike “CS”
and just lump all of LEED v3 into there =). I expect I’m not the
only one (blindly?) hoping the leadership within GBCI/USGBC are actively
steering us towards a day where LEED documentation, and EAc1 with its prereq’s
in particular, can be a relatively less time/patience-consuming experience for
everyone involved.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Best of luck – I’ll
look forward to reading some better responses than this one!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>~Nick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>James
Hansen<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:41 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bldg-sim@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-sim] why does LEED-CS EAc1 documentation have to be so
@#%^$confusing?!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>I’ve asked this question before, but never really got
a good answer, so I’m trying again in case anyone has new info.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone successfully submitted a LEED v3 Core and Shell
Energy Model?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Under v2.0, there was a LEED-CS EAc1 calculator explained
here:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=6926">https://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=6926</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Spreadsheet link:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'><a
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>It was a great way to subtract out energy loads that the
Owner/Developer did not have control over.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>However, under the new v3 Green Building Reference guide
(includes NC, CS, etc), they appear to have gotten rid of the sliding
Developer/Tenant scale, and now award just a different quantity of points for
CS vs NC. It certainly looks that way, and the v3 online template
couldn’t possibly be more confusing to me, so I can’t really tell
by looking at that.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>Is this true? If so, it’s a shame, because if you
have a Core and Shell project where there is an Owner requirement to provide a
mechanical system capable of supporting 5 Watts / sq ft tenant plug loads, you
can no longer back out the plug loads as an energy consumer “not
controlled by the Owner/Developer”. I could reduce the plug load
density to help shrink the numerator/denominator, but that’s not really
an accurate thing to do in a C&S project, since the Developer HAS to
provide cooling for 5 W / sq ft because of things like SFOs, specific tenant
requirements, etc. C&S projects are a completely different animal
than an NC project where you already know and can guarantee tenant loads.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal>That sucks. Can anyone confirm?<o:p></o:p></p>
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