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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thanks Helen. The project is
actually located in Minnesota; had it been in Madison or Milwaukee wastecap
would be quite a useful resource. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>I did find a CIR asking this
exact question under NC (I apologize; I was looking at CIR’s on a CI
project). It states:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>“</span>The CIR is inquiring
if the diversion of non-recyclable materials to an EPA approved Waste to Energy
facility qualifies as construction waste diversion for the purposes of this
credit. The credit intent states, “Divert construction and demolition
debris from disposal in landfills and incinerators.” Based on the credit
intent, incineration of construction waste materials cannot be used as an
alternative for diverting waste from the landfill.”<span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>Eric</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Helen Kessler
[mailto:hjkessler@hjkesslerassociates.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Eric O'Neill<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Bldg-rate] Waste to energy plants<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>There's an organization called
WasteCap Wisconsin which may be of help to you. I don't believe that LEED
will recognize incineration, even if used for electricity. There may be
some credit interpretations on this.</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>Helen</span><span
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Helen J. Kessler, FAIA, LEED Accredited
Professional</span><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:
12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
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bldg-rate-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-rate-bounces@lists.onebuilding.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eric
O'Neill<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:26 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> bldg-rate@lists.onebuilding.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Bldg-rate] Waste to energy plants</span><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Hello everyone,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>I’m working on a LEED NC
project, and had a question about MR credit 2. It is also pertinent to LEED EB
– O&M MR credit 7 and LEED CI – MR credit 2. The intent is to
reduce the amount of waste that is diverted to landfills and incinerators.
However, in this particular city the paper and plastic products are
“recycled” by burning them to generate electricity (this is where
the garbage goes too…). <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Although it’s going to an
incinerator, it is technically being reused. However, underlying part of the
intent is to minimize the need for virgin materials as well as minimize
pollutants in the air. Obviously, waste to energy doesn’t do this. The
trouble is, actually recycling materials requires shipping it nearly 100 miles
(although I’m still looking) to the nearest facility which does it the
way LEED indicates. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'>Has anyone had experience with
this? <o:p></o:p></p>
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