[Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone groupdefinitions

[Paul Brooks]

I would assume oyou have to do that in the Detail edit mode.  I am not that far 
yet.......




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From: Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
To: Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
Cc: Paul Brooks <equestpaul at yahoo.com>; eQuest user forum 
<equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 1:51:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone groupdefinitions


Since I'm still learning and experiencing this wizard tool for zone groups, how 
or where do you assign different occupancy types/schedules to different areas?  
Let's say for example i had a building with retail on the ground floor and 
residential on the upper floors, how or where do I select two different sets of 
operating schedules for the two different types of spaces?  Or can this even be 
done from this function.

Before I knew how to do this zone grouping thing in the wizard I would have 
input these two different spaces as separate shells so that I could classify 
them with different schedules...

am I missing something or not?

thanks,
Pasha


On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:

For completeness, for those learning or re-learning these wizard screens, let me 
offer a related caution:
> 
>I always end up defining my own zone groups to be sure everything has the 
>occupancy scheduling that fits best, however there’s a hidden danger:  DO NOT 
>delete the default zone groups before first creating a new one.  You will 
>otherwise potentially crash out your wizard model and be unable to move 
>forward.  I’ve done this twice (fool me once…), so it’s pretty well ingrained in 
>my active memory – but hopefully this will help others avoid a headache!
> 
>~Nick
> 
> 
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>[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Paul Brooks
>Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:53 AM
>To: Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
>Cc: eQuest user forum 
>
>Subject: Re: [Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone groupdefinitions
> 
>Thank you so much.  YOur description is how I thought things would/should work, 
>but, as Ronnie said many years ago "Trust, but verify"!
> 
>I am again a happy camper for now.
> 
>
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>From:Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
>To: Paul Brooks <equestpaul at yahoo.com>
>Cc: eQuest user forum <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
>Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 12:46:54 PM
>Subject: Re: [Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone group definitions
>Hi Paul,
> 
>These screens were an anomolie (sp?) to me until just this year thanks to a 
>younger fellow simulator who uses them quite efficiently.  In fact, I always 
>skipped out of the wizard when it came to these screens until I took the time to 
>learn how to readjust & reallocate the % space inputs on these screens.   After 
>learning to do this I now spend less time on the back-end (ddedit mode) 
>adjusting my HVAC system assignments... Yay!
> 
>Here's my attempt to explain what I've learned.  I'll call out my colleague Dan 
>W. for help on this one if I mess it up...
> 
>Screen 13 is your % space based on the WHOLE BUILDING floor area.  When you move 
>to screen 14 this is where you actually assign HVAC systems to your zone 
>groups.  A zone group is a group of zones that can be assigned to the same HVAC 
>system. (NOTE:  at this point you will want to have created your basic HVAC 
>systems types already in the wizard.  This was a backward step for me at first, 
>but it works for when you switch to ddedit mode.)
> 
>So in  screen 14 the % space for zone groups is based on the total floor area of 
>all the zones you want to group together.  (at this point you should also have a 
>basic take off of floor area for your thermal zones.)  Now after you have 
>"grouped" your zones that you want together you need to revise the % space 
>numbers in the top of the screen.   (I've included a screen shot of one of my 
>models where I used the zone groups.)  Note how I have zeroed-out some of the % 
>space input for other zones that I have not grouped into my specific group I'm 
>calling "Conference Center."   With the revised % space numbers make sure that 
>they add up to 100%.
> 
>So to answer your question, when you use Screen 14 correctly these inputs will 
>override screen 13.   If I should clarify anything better let me know.
> 
>Pasha
> 
>
>
> 
>On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Paul Brooks <equestpaul at yahoo.com> wrote:
>Does anyone have any idea which of screen 13 or 14 in the DD wizard overides the 
>other?  I am using zone group definitions to give dtail on how individual zone 
>space is allocated (screen 14 of 25), but that does not seem to affect the 
>activites area allocation, (screen 13 of 25).
> 
>Anone have any thoughts or experience to share?
> 
>Thanks! 
> 
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I would (assumption here) 


      
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