[Bldg-sim] Generating or obtaining Real-Time load profiles?

[Jeremiah Crossett]

I think E+ can do this when using the Zsz.csv file output, it
produces minute by minute intervals.  Below are two charts I created of the
cooling load profile and here is a link to live charts:
https://docs.google.com/a/phasechange.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ag7cD5ZV9QwRdFZxS0VmaXlhQ0ZQUzBidDFhdVNkVkE#gid=5

PCM's are very useful for demand shifting such as shown in these examples..

This new construction example with BioPCM in the exterior walls and above
ceiling tiles reduced demand by 36.34% or about 16.2 kW

[image: Inline image 2]

And this existing office building with BioPCM above ceiling tiles reduced
peak load by15.46% or about 5.3 kW.

[image: Inline image 1]
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*Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy Solutions*
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120 E. Pritchard St.  | Asheboro, NC 27203  | Mobile 503-688-8951
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On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:12 PM, jake spuggy <spugggy at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks all for the thoughtful responses.
>
> The Smart Grid challenge I am studying is predicting demand spikes so that
> they can be better treated.
> Demand spikes force Utilities to overcompensate in ways that are often
> energy inefficient, costly for consumers, and worse for the environment.
>
> I'm here because Smart Grid researchers have very little real-time load
> data for individual homes and manufacturing facilities.
> Thus, EnergyPlus and other tools may provide the best approximations
> available.
>
> Real-time simulated building load data could be a game changer for the
> smart grid.
> Assuming of course, that the simulated loads reflect actual experience and
> that the data is easily accessible to Smart Grid investigators.
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> My 2 cents,
> --Jake
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> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Sami, Vikram <Vikram.Sami at perkinswill.com>wrote:
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>> Jake,****
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>> Since you mentioned smart grid I am assuming you want it in a format to
>> import into Homer. You can do this quite easily in eQUEST when you select
>> the hourly reporting options in the SIM file. The default reports hourly
>> numbers from the electric & fuel meters which is probably what you are
>> looking for. ****
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>> *From:* bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
>> bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeremiah Crossett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:13 PM
>> *To:* jake spuggy
>> *Cc:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
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>> *Subject:* Re: [Bldg-sim] Generating or obtaining Real-Time load
>> profiles?****
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>> I found the report
>> http://repository.tamu.edu/bitstream/handle/1969.1/2013/ESL-TR-01-04-01.pdf?sequence=1
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>> But can not find the excel workbook-- does anyone know where to find this?
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>> *Jeremiah D. Crossett  | Senior Analyst  |  Phase Change Energy Solutions
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>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:58 PM, jake spuggy <spugggy at gmail.com> wrote:***
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>> Thanks all for the leads, I will follow up. ****
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>> In open source spirit, if I figure out a way to wrap an "example file"
>> service I'll package it up and share it.
>> http://apps1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/energyplus/cfm/inputs/****
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>> I suspect there are many people like me out there -- seasoned programmers
>> and R/Matlab types who are just trying to get sample data for time-series
>> modeling and regression/classification tasks. ****
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>> Cheers,****
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>> --Jake ****
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>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Jeff Haberl <jhaberl at tamu.edu> wrote:****
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>> Jake,****
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>> You'll still have to process the data that is output from the program in
>> a repeatable fashion. Therefore, I'd recommend you look at ASHRAE Research
>> Project RP-1093 "Diversity Factor Toolkit". ****
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>> It contains a set of spreadsheets that take as input 8760 hourly data and
>> convert it into quartile plots that can then be used to determine such
>> things as weekday or weekend profiles.  It also outputs DOE-2, BLAST and
>> EP+ schedules that are representative of the mean profiles generated by the
>> spreadsheet that can be cut-and-pasted into your input command file. Its
>> great for making the 3-D plots as well. ****
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>> Information about the project can be found in: ****
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>> 1.        Abushakra, B., Haberl, J., Claridge, D. 2004. “Overview of
>> Literature on Diversity Factors and Schedules for Energy and Cooling Load
>> Calculations (1093-RP),” *ASHRAE Transactions-Research,* Vol. 110, Pt. 1
>> (February), pp. 164-176. ****
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>> 2.        Claridge, D., Abushakra, B., Haberl, J. 2003. “Electricity
>> Diversity Profiles for Energy Simulation of Office Buildings (1093-RP),”
>> *ASHRAE Transactions-Research,* Vol. 110, Pt. 1 (February), pp. 365-377.*
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>> Copies of the final report, including the spreadsheet can be obtained
>> from Mike Vaughn, Research Manager at ASHRAE.****
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>> Jeff****
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>> *From:* bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
>> bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] on behalf of Michael J Witte [
>> mjwitte at gard.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2012 8:35 PM
>> *To:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Bldg-sim] Generating or obtaining Real-Time load
>> profiles?****
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>> "Real Time Load Profiles" is a very generic term.  Since you mention
>> SmartGrid, I assume you mean electric power use profiles.  Timeseries CSV
>> files are a common standard output from EnergyPlus and most tools (nearly
>> all the example files produce some variation of this).  A single command in
>> EnergyPlus will produce this directly as a csv file if you set the timestep
>> = 60.
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>> Output:Meter, Electricity:Facility, timestep;
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>> The first column is date/time instead of seconds, but that can easily be
>> converted inside excel.  This will give you minute-by-minute electric power
>> consumption.  Or maybe I'm misunderstanding the question.
>>
>> Mike
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>> On 12/6/2012 7:19 PM, jake spuggy wrote:****
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>> After trying a number of programs (EnergyPlus, BCTV, etc) I find it
>> amazing that there isn't an easier way to generate *"Real Time Load
>> Profiles". * ****
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>> I see that these programs, namely EnergyPlus, can "describe" an load
>> profile of a device. ****
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>> But I really just want CSV files with these 2 columns: ****
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>> *Time (in seconds), Power (average)*****
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>> The Smart Grid is about making energy decisions in real-time. ****
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>> Does anyone know how to make these programs output CSV files for
>> researchers like me? ****
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>> Your advice? ****
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>> --Jake ****
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